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Attributes | |
ACN | 362100 |
Time | |
Date | 199702 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : den |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 9500 msl bound upper : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : den |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 3000 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 362100 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance non adherence other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
While cruising from cos to den at 12000 ft MSL, approach cleared us to 'slow to 250 KTS and descend to 9000 ft.' upon passing 9500 ft, controller queried what altitude we were descending to and when I made a positive response that we were cleared to 9000 ft, he responded 'climb back up to 10000 ft.' we immediately complied and nothing further was said by the controller except to switch to the next frequency. There was no incident or terrain clearance problem and both the captain and I were positive of the clearance we had received. It was apparently a case of misunderstanding or misstating the clearance. It reinforces the need for both pilots and controllers to communication and clearly read back all clrncs, and to question them when appropriate.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC READS CLRNC ALT CHANGE BACK INCORRECTLY. APCH CTLR MISSED THE ERROR UNTIL ALTDEV ALT OVERSHOT OCCURS.
Narrative: WHILE CRUISING FROM COS TO DEN AT 12000 FT MSL, APCH CLRED US TO 'SLOW TO 250 KTS AND DSND TO 9000 FT.' UPON PASSING 9500 FT, CTLR QUERIED WHAT ALT WE WERE DSNDING TO AND WHEN I MADE A POSITIVE RESPONSE THAT WE WERE CLRED TO 9000 FT, HE RESPONDED 'CLB BACK UP TO 10000 FT.' WE IMMEDIATELY COMPLIED AND NOTHING FURTHER WAS SAID BY THE CTLR EXCEPT TO SWITCH TO THE NEXT FREQ. THERE WAS NO INCIDENT OR TERRAIN CLRNC PROB AND BOTH THE CAPT AND I WERE POSITIVE OF THE CLRNC WE HAD RECEIVED. IT WAS APPARENTLY A CASE OF MISUNDERSTANDING OR MISSTATING THE CLRNC. IT REINFORCES THE NEED FOR BOTH PLTS AND CTLRS TO COM AND CLRLY READ BACK ALL CLRNCS, AND TO QUESTION THEM WHEN APPROPRIATE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.