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Attributes | |
ACN | 362293 |
Time | |
Date | 199703 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bfm |
State Reference | AL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : bfm |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Bonanza 33 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time total : 4020 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 362293 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | observation : passenger |
Qualification | pilot : cfi |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
A VFR flight to mobile downtown was made for the purpose of delivering mr X so he could pick up his bonanza which had been in the shop for repairs. Mr X had mr Y from FBO with him to make the return flight to be sure the aircraft was in good shape. Mr Y was in the right front seat. Mr X in the rear at the time of the incident. Mr Y, who is a licensed instructor, suggested that we make a practice ILS runway 32 approach to the mobile airport and so requested from the controller. The airport conditions were clear at the time, however, south of the airport where we were, we were actually in the clouds before the approach was completed and back out into the clear. The runway in use at that time was runway 14. There was a discussion with the controller concerning that situation and he advised that he would let us know if the runway 32 approach was not practical. After various vectors we broke out in the clear. At that time we were given clearance for an ILS runway 32 approach maintain 1800 ft. We were told to switch to the tower frequency 119.6, which I did, and announced location and intentions. We landed at the airport, tower requested that we call the tower as soon as we taxied to the FBO, and I did. The tower alleged that we had not been given any clearance to land. The other pilots in the aircraft disagreed. I offered to go to the tower in person after making the phone call. The gentleman in the tower said he would come over to the FBO and pick me up. We had a conversation about the circumstances. I presented to him my business card and described the circumstances as I have described in this narrative as best I could. My flying has spanned almost 50 yrs. You can rest assured that I do not land at controled airports without clearance. There was an argument between the controller and the tower about whether I had been granted clearance. The controller said no, which was not compatible with my understanding or that of the passenger. There was another aircraft that was approaching on final runway 14. I did not see that aircraft and I am not aware whether it was necessary for him to make a go around or not.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: BONANZA PLT ON PRACTICE ILS APCH IS TOLD HE LANDED WITHOUT CLRNC. PLT AND PAX DO NOT AGREE.
Narrative: A VFR FLT TO MOBILE DOWNTOWN WAS MADE FOR THE PURPOSE OF DELIVERING MR X SO HE COULD PICK UP HIS BONANZA WHICH HAD BEEN IN THE SHOP FOR REPAIRS. MR X HAD MR Y FROM FBO WITH HIM TO MAKE THE RETURN FLT TO BE SURE THE ACFT WAS IN GOOD SHAPE. MR Y WAS IN THE R FRONT SEAT. MR X IN THE REAR AT THE TIME OF THE INCIDENT. MR Y, WHO IS A LICENSED INSTRUCTOR, SUGGESTED THAT WE MAKE A PRACTICE ILS RWY 32 APCH TO THE MOBILE ARPT AND SO REQUESTED FROM THE CTLR. THE ARPT CONDITIONS WERE CLR AT THE TIME, HOWEVER, S OF THE ARPT WHERE WE WERE, WE WERE ACTUALLY IN THE CLOUDS BEFORE THE APCH WAS COMPLETED AND BACK OUT INTO THE CLR. THE RWY IN USE AT THAT TIME WAS RWY 14. THERE WAS A DISCUSSION WITH THE CTLR CONCERNING THAT SIT AND HE ADVISED THAT HE WOULD LET US KNOW IF THE RWY 32 APCH WAS NOT PRACTICAL. AFTER VARIOUS VECTORS WE BROKE OUT IN THE CLR. AT THAT TIME WE WERE GIVEN CLRNC FOR AN ILS RWY 32 APCH MAINTAIN 1800 FT. WE WERE TOLD TO SWITCH TO THE TWR FREQ 119.6, WHICH I DID, AND ANNOUNCED LOCATION AND INTENTIONS. WE LANDED AT THE ARPT, TWR REQUESTED THAT WE CALL THE TWR AS SOON AS WE TAXIED TO THE FBO, AND I DID. THE TWR ALLEGED THAT WE HAD NOT BEEN GIVEN ANY CLRNC TO LAND. THE OTHER PLTS IN THE ACFT DISAGREED. I OFFERED TO GO TO THE TWR IN PERSON AFTER MAKING THE PHONE CALL. THE GENTLEMAN IN THE TWR SAID HE WOULD COME OVER TO THE FBO AND PICK ME UP. WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE CIRCUMSTANCES. I PRESENTED TO HIM MY BUSINESS CARD AND DESCRIBED THE CIRCUMSTANCES AS I HAVE DESCRIBED IN THIS NARRATIVE AS BEST I COULD. MY FLYING HAS SPANNED ALMOST 50 YRS. YOU CAN REST ASSURED THAT I DO NOT LAND AT CTLED ARPTS WITHOUT CLRNC. THERE WAS AN ARGUMENT BTWN THE CTLR AND THE TWR ABOUT WHETHER I HAD BEEN GRANTED CLRNC. THE CTLR SAID NO, WHICH WAS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH MY UNDERSTANDING OR THAT OF THE PAX. THERE WAS ANOTHER ACFT THAT WAS APCHING ON FINAL RWY 14. I DID NOT SEE THAT ACFT AND I AM NOT AWARE WHETHER IT WAS NECESSARY FOR HIM TO MAKE A GAR OR NOT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.