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Attributes | |
ACN | 362582 |
Time | |
Date | 199703 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : y12 |
State Reference | MN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2700 msl bound upper : 2700 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : msp |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee Arrow IV |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 6 flight time total : 590 flight time type : 100 |
ASRS Report | 362582 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | observation : passenger |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was receiving vectors for the ILS runway 29 approach at airlake, mn. Last vector was 220 degrees, 2700 ft. I saw the localizer needle center. I turned to intercept the final approach course. All this was done VFR with a safety pilot and without an IFR clearance. As I approached the GS, I called msp approach and told them I was on the GS. They asked where I had been. They indicated they had tried to reach me for the last 5 mi. They said I should not have joined the final approach course until cleared to do so, ie, cleared for the approach. I asked the controller if this was going to be a problem. He said not this time. I believe my decision to begin the approach was a bad decision. My decision was based on experiences that include bad vector and late clrncs when doing practice IFR work in this area. Next time I will call approach control and ask for clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PA28-180 PLT ON PRACTICE IFR APCH JOINS THE FINAL APCH COURSE WITHOUT CLRNC. WHEN CONTACTING APCH HE IS TOLD THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO CONTACT HIM.
Narrative: I WAS RECEIVING VECTORS FOR THE ILS RWY 29 APCH AT AIRLAKE, MN. LAST VECTOR WAS 220 DEGS, 2700 FT. I SAW THE LOC NEEDLE CTR. I TURNED TO INTERCEPT THE FINAL APCH COURSE. ALL THIS WAS DONE VFR WITH A SAFETY PLT AND WITHOUT AN IFR CLRNC. AS I APCHED THE GS, I CALLED MSP APCH AND TOLD THEM I WAS ON THE GS. THEY ASKED WHERE I HAD BEEN. THEY INDICATED THEY HAD TRIED TO REACH ME FOR THE LAST 5 MI. THEY SAID I SHOULD NOT HAVE JOINED THE FINAL APCH COURSE UNTIL CLRED TO DO SO, IE, CLRED FOR THE APCH. I ASKED THE CTLR IF THIS WAS GOING TO BE A PROB. HE SAID NOT THIS TIME. I BELIEVE MY DECISION TO BEGIN THE APCH WAS A BAD DECISION. MY DECISION WAS BASED ON EXPERIENCES THAT INCLUDE BAD VECTOR AND LATE CLRNCS WHEN DOING PRACTICE IFR WORK IN THIS AREA. NEXT TIME I WILL CALL APCH CTL AND ASK FOR CLRNC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.