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Medium large transport was cleared to runway 23R but not told to hold short of the ILS critical area. Reporter did, however, clear the area when advised by another aircraft that he was in the area. WX not given but it is an ATC responsibility to tell aircraft to hold short of the critical area.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 362449 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199703 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : rdu |
| State Reference | NC |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : bjc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 300 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 4200 |
| ASRS Report | 362449 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
During taxi to runway 23R at rdu I entered ILS critical area and pulled up to hold short line. I was never told by ground or tower to hold short of critical area. Another aircraft advised me and I promptly left the area. No incident occurred. I think it would be a good idea if ground issued hold short of critical area in their taxi instructions.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG WAS CLRED TO RWY 23R BUT NOT TOLD TO HOLD SHORT OF THE ILS CRITICAL AREA. RPTR DID, HOWEVER, CLR THE AREA WHEN ADVISED BY ANOTHER ACFT THAT HE WAS IN THE AREA. WX NOT GIVEN BUT IT IS AN ATC RESPONSIBILITY TO TELL ACFT TO HOLD SHORT OF THE CRITICAL AREA.
Narrative: DURING TAXI TO RWY 23R AT RDU I ENTERED ILS CRITICAL AREA AND PULLED UP TO HOLD SHORT LINE. I WAS NEVER TOLD BY GND OR TWR TO HOLD SHORT OF CRITICAL AREA. ANOTHER ACFT ADVISED ME AND I PROMPTLY LEFT THE AREA. NO INCIDENT OCCURRED. I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA IF GND ISSUED HOLD SHORT OF CRITICAL AREA IN THEIR TAXI INSTRUCTIONS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.