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Attributes | |
ACN | 362504 |
Time | |
Date | 199702 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : yng |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : yng |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff landing other other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 13 flight time total : 63 flight time type : 61 |
ASRS Report | 362504 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor observation : observer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 575 flight time type : 210 |
ASRS Report | 362161 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical conflict : ground critical other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | controller : provided flight assist flight crew : declared emergency none taken : unable other |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Crossed hold short, realized mistake, didn't enter runway. Took off runway 32, started climb to 2000 ft, smelled wire burning and loss of power. Reached 2000 ft MSL called tower to tell them of problem. Tower first gave me right pattern then change to a left pattern for runway 14, wind was 090 degrees/9 KTS. Unable to make runway 14, called tower. They told me to use any runway I wanted. Made a tear drop and landed on runway 32 bounced twice didn't hold nose up and collapsed nosegear. I feel the tower didn't give me very good instruction, knowing I was a student. I should have taken more control and stayed in my right bank and landed runway 23 or runway 32. Supplemental information from acn 362161: the tower told the student to have the instructor call the tower upon landing. No injuries to student but considerable aircraft damage. As the instructor (on the ground) I feel the tower should have waited until the student was on the ground before having them get nervous about having the instructor call the tower. I also feel the controller seemed more confused about what to do than the student, and having the student complete 450 degrees of turns while low and slow could have easily led to a stall, spin incident.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: STUDENT PLT IN SOLO FLT IN SMA LOSES ENG PWR, TWR CTLR ATTEMPTS TO ASSIST WITH HEADINGS, STUDENT PLT FINALLY MANEUVERS ACFT BACK TO RWY. MAKES HARD LNDG, PORPOISES AND COLLAPSES NOSEGEAR.
Narrative: CROSSED HOLD SHORT, REALIZED MISTAKE, DIDN'T ENTER RWY. TOOK OFF RWY 32, STARTED CLB TO 2000 FT, SMELLED WIRE BURNING AND LOSS OF PWR. REACHED 2000 FT MSL CALLED TWR TO TELL THEM OF PROB. TWR FIRST GAVE ME R PATTERN THEN CHANGE TO A L PATTERN FOR RWY 14, WIND WAS 090 DEGS/9 KTS. UNABLE TO MAKE RWY 14, CALLED TWR. THEY TOLD ME TO USE ANY RWY I WANTED. MADE A TEAR DROP AND LANDED ON RWY 32 BOUNCED TWICE DIDN'T HOLD NOSE UP AND COLLAPSED NOSEGEAR. I FEEL THE TWR DIDN'T GIVE ME VERY GOOD INSTRUCTION, KNOWING I WAS A STUDENT. I SHOULD HAVE TAKEN MORE CTL AND STAYED IN MY R BANK AND LANDED RWY 23 OR RWY 32. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 362161: THE TWR TOLD THE STUDENT TO HAVE THE INSTRUCTOR CALL THE TWR UPON LNDG. NO INJURIES TO STUDENT BUT CONSIDERABLE ACFT DAMAGE. AS THE INSTRUCTOR (ON THE GND) I FEEL THE TWR SHOULD HAVE WAITED UNTIL THE STUDENT WAS ON THE GND BEFORE HAVING THEM GET NERVOUS ABOUT HAVING THE INSTRUCTOR CALL THE TWR. I ALSO FEEL THE CTLR SEEMED MORE CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT TO DO THAN THE STUDENT, AND HAVING THE STUDENT COMPLETE 450 DEGS OF TURNS WHILE LOW AND SLOW COULD HAVE EASILY LED TO A STALL, SPIN INCIDENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.