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Large transport air carrier aircraft overshoots altitude in climb. PIC in right seat was talking instead of calling out the altitude to the student captain. Both pilots and the so failed to hear the altitude alerter as the designed volume is too low.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 363730 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199703 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : crg |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 14000 msl bound upper : 15000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zjx |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer observation : company check pilot oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 9000 |
| ASRS Report | 363730 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 70 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 300 |
| ASRS Report | 364183 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance non adherence other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
During climb we were cleared to 14000 ft. As a result of an instructional discussion with a student captain, who was flying from the left seat, the 1000 ft to go call was not given and it resulted in the aircraft being leveled at 15000 ft instead of 14000 ft. Altitude alert device was set properly to 14000 ft but did not get our attention as the aircraft climbed through 14000 ft. The aircraft was immediately descended to 14000 ft. Strict adherence to established crew coordination procedures and a better altitude alert device would have prevented this incident.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LGT ACR ACFT OVERSHOOTS ALT IN CLB. PIC IN R SEAT WAS TALKING INSTEAD OF CALLING OUT THE ALT TO THE STUDENT CAPT. BOTH PLTS AND THE SO FAILED TO HEAR THE ALT ALERTER AS THE DESIGNED VOLUME IS TOO LOW.
Narrative: DURING CLB WE WERE CLRED TO 14000 FT. AS A RESULT OF AN INSTRUCTIONAL DISCUSSION WITH A STUDENT CAPT, WHO WAS FLYING FROM THE L SEAT, THE 1000 FT TO GO CALL WAS NOT GIVEN AND IT RESULTED IN THE ACFT BEING LEVELED AT 15000 FT INSTEAD OF 14000 FT. ALT ALERT DEVICE WAS SET PROPERLY TO 14000 FT BUT DID NOT GET OUR ATTN AS THE ACFT CLBED THROUGH 14000 FT. THE ACFT WAS IMMEDIATELY DSNDED TO 14000 FT. STRICT ADHERENCE TO ESTABLISHED CREW COORD PROCS AND A BETTER ALT ALERT DEVICE WOULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS INCIDENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.