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Attributes | |
ACN | 364173 |
Time | |
Date | 199703 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : eau airport : msp |
State Reference | WI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zmp |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | SA-227 AC Metro III |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 6400 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 364173 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Shortly after departure from msp aircraft nose rose abruptly higher than normal +10 degree rotation. I immediately applied nose down trim and quickly reacted the electric nose down trim limit. During the climb I applied forward pressure to the control wheel to keep the aircraft from increasing pitch. After leveling off at 11000 ft we reduced power to a normal cruise setting and were able to keep the aircraft level with only a small amount of forward pressure on the control wheel. I then called our operations to ask if they had entered their weight and balance data correctly. They said they had, but the aft cargo bin (cargo #2 and #3) had been overloaded by approximately 47 pounds, but the updated weight and balance data still showed that our aircraft was within the center of gravity envelope, which obviously did not coincide with the lack of nose down trim required to remove the control wheel pressure. On paper our aircraft balanced, in the real world it did not. We continued to our destination cwa because this aircraft's center of gravity moves forward as fuel is consumed. We were also full (19 passenger), so we were unable to shift any passenger towards the front of the aircraft. Contributing factor in this incident is the use of standard passenger weights (170 pounds) and standard bag weights (25 pounds) on an aircraft as small as the metroliner. As the aircraft approachs its maximum allowable takeoff weight the margin of error between actual and standard weights becomes too great.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: METRO SA227 NOTED TAIL HVY ON DEP MSP. FULL NOSE DOWN TRIM REQUIRED. CHKED WITH DISPATCH AND ADVISED 47 LBS HVY IN TAIL. CONTINUED TO DEST SINCE CTR OF GRAVITY MOVES FORWARD AS FUEL IS BURNED.
Narrative: SHORTLY AFTER DEP FROM MSP ACFT NOSE ROSE ABRUPTLY HIGHER THAN NORMAL +10 DEG ROTATION. I IMMEDIATELY APPLIED NOSE DOWN TRIM AND QUICKLY REACTED THE ELECTRIC NOSE DOWN TRIM LIMIT. DURING THE CLB I APPLIED FORWARD PRESSURE TO THE CTL WHEEL TO KEEP THE ACFT FROM INCREASING PITCH. AFTER LEVELING OFF AT 11000 FT WE REDUCED PWR TO A NORMAL CRUISE SETTING AND WERE ABLE TO KEEP THE ACFT LEVEL WITH ONLY A SMALL AMOUNT OF FORWARD PRESSURE ON THE CTL WHEEL. I THEN CALLED OUR OPS TO ASK IF THEY HAD ENTERED THEIR WT AND BAL DATA CORRECTLY. THEY SAID THEY HAD, BUT THE AFT CARGO BIN (CARGO #2 AND #3) HAD BEEN OVERLOADED BY APPROX 47 LBS, BUT THE UPDATED WT AND BAL DATA STILL SHOWED THAT OUR ACFT WAS WITHIN THE CTR OF GRAVITY ENVELOPE, WHICH OBVIOUSLY DID NOT COINCIDE WITH THE LACK OF NOSE DOWN TRIM REQUIRED TO REMOVE THE CTL WHEEL PRESSURE. ON PAPER OUR ACFT BALANCED, IN THE REAL WORLD IT DID NOT. WE CONTINUED TO OUR DEST CWA BECAUSE THIS ACFT'S CTR OF GRAVITY MOVES FORWARD AS FUEL IS CONSUMED. WE WERE ALSO FULL (19 PAX), SO WE WERE UNABLE TO SHIFT ANY PAX TOWARDS THE FRONT OF THE ACFT. CONTRIBUTING FACTOR IN THIS INCIDENT IS THE USE OF STANDARD PAX WTS (170 LBS) AND STANDARD BAG WTS (25 LBS) ON AN ACFT AS SMALL AS THE METROLINER. AS THE ACFT APCHS ITS MAX ALLOWABLE TKOF WT THE MARGIN OF ERROR BTWN ACTUAL AND STANDARD WTS BECOMES TOO GREAT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.