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B727 flight crew fail to note altitude deviation until 800 ft above assigned altitude. Departure controller fails to note as well. No mention made of using altitude alerter or any crew coordination efforts.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 364460 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199703 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : fwa |
| State Reference | IN |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3800 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : fwa |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time total : 14100 flight time type : 3500 |
| ASRS Report | 364460 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Cleared to 3000 ft MSL. Flew through 3800 ft. All 3 of us realized error simultaneously. We descended immediately to 3000 ft. Fwa departure did not inform us of our altitude deviation. We assume they missed it. We were not at 3800 ft for more than 5 seconds. No traffic conflicts occurred.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B727 FLC FAIL TO NOTE ALTDEV UNTIL 800 FT ABOVE ASSIGNED ALT. DEP CTLR FAILS TO NOTE AS WELL. NO MENTION MADE OF USING ALT ALERTER OR ANY CREW COORD EFFORTS.
Narrative: CLRED TO 3000 FT MSL. FLEW THROUGH 3800 FT. ALL 3 OF US REALIZED ERROR SIMULTANEOUSLY. WE DSNDED IMMEDIATELY TO 3000 FT. FWA DEP DID NOT INFORM US OF OUR ALTDEV. WE ASSUME THEY MISSED IT. WE WERE NOT AT 3800 FT FOR MORE THAN 5 SECONDS. NO TFC CONFLICTS OCCURRED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.