Narrative:

Myself and 1 other pilot rented the seneca PA34 for our building and decided to remain in the pattern at dab and perform touch-and-goes. Both pilots are multi-engine istrs with each pilot approximately having 1200 hours of total time and 100 hours of multi-engine time. There were only 2 lndgs made on that flight. The first landing was executed by the pilot sitting in the left seat. His landing was hard, but nothing outside the normal hard lndgs encountered with students. His landing was also made with all 3 landing gear contacting with the ground at the same time. (The pilot, after initial contact, initiated a full power climb, retracted the landing gear.) the pilot in the right seat then took the controls of the aircraft at 500 ft AGL on the upwind leg of the pattern. Abeam of the threshold for runway 7L on the downwind leg, the pilot in the right seat then placed the gear selector in the down position and extended first 10 degrees of flaps. Verification of the gear down and locked was made prior to the base leg. A gump check was then initiated immediately after the turn from the base leg by both pilots. All indications were showing the gear were all down and locked. Midpoint on the final, the throttles were retarded to idle to decelerate the seneca to approach speed and no aural indication was heard. Upon arriving at the flare point the pilot on the right side began to reduce throttles and land. Upon touchdown of the main gear first, the PF then reduced back pressure and settled the nosegear onto the runway. Shortly after, the nose fell forward slightly, but did not collapse completely. Approximately 500-1000 ft later the nosegear collapsed completely. The pilot proceeded to shut down the engines and had come to a stop at the midpoint of the runway.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: HARD LNDG MADE IN A PA34 BY 1 PLT. THE OTHER PLT TAKES THE NEXT LNDG. THE NOSE GEAR FOLDS AFTER A NORMAL TOUCHDOWN.

Narrative: MYSELF AND 1 OTHER PLT RENTED THE SENECA PA34 FOR OUR BUILDING AND DECIDED TO REMAIN IN THE PATTERN AT DAB AND PERFORM TOUCH-AND-GOES. BOTH PLTS ARE MULTI-ENG ISTRS WITH EACH PLT APPROX HAVING 1200 HRS OF TOTAL TIME AND 100 HRS OF MULTI-ENG TIME. THERE WERE ONLY 2 LNDGS MADE ON THAT FLT. THE FIRST LNDG WAS EXECUTED BY THE PLT SITTING IN THE L SEAT. HIS LNDG WAS HARD, BUT NOTHING OUTSIDE THE NORMAL HARD LNDGS ENCOUNTERED WITH STUDENTS. HIS LNDG WAS ALSO MADE WITH ALL 3 LNDG GEAR CONTACTING WITH THE GND AT THE SAME TIME. (THE PLT, AFTER INITIAL CONTACT, INITIATED A FULL PWR CLB, RETRACTED THE LNDG GEAR.) THE PLT IN THE R SEAT THEN TOOK THE CTLS OF THE ACFT AT 500 FT AGL ON THE UPWIND LEG OF THE PATTERN. ABEAM OF THE THRESHOLD FOR RWY 7L ON THE DOWNWIND LEG, THE PLT IN THE R SEAT THEN PLACED THE GEAR SELECTOR IN THE DOWN POS AND EXTENDED FIRST 10 DEGS OF FLAPS. VERIFICATION OF THE GEAR DOWN AND LOCKED WAS MADE PRIOR TO THE BASE LEG. A GUMP CHK WAS THEN INITIATED IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TURN FROM THE BASE LEG BY BOTH PLTS. ALL INDICATIONS WERE SHOWING THE GEAR WERE ALL DOWN AND LOCKED. MIDPOINT ON THE FINAL, THE THROTTLES WERE RETARDED TO IDLE TO DECELERATE THE SENECA TO APCH SPD AND NO AURAL INDICATION WAS HEARD. UPON ARRIVING AT THE FLARE POINT THE PLT ON THE R SIDE BEGAN TO REDUCE THROTTLES AND LAND. UPON TOUCHDOWN OF THE MAIN GEAR FIRST, THE PF THEN REDUCED BACK PRESSURE AND SETTLED THE NOSEGEAR ONTO THE RWY. SHORTLY AFTER, THE NOSE FELL FORWARD SLIGHTLY, BUT DID NOT COLLAPSE COMPLETELY. APPROX 500-1000 FT LATER THE NOSEGEAR COLLAPSED COMPLETELY. THE PLT PROCEEDED TO SHUT DOWN THE ENGS AND HAD COME TO A STOP AT THE MIDPOINT OF THE RWY.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.