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Attributes | |
ACN | 366240 |
Time | |
Date | 199704 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : dtw airport : yip |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 10500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dtw tower : hwd |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | MU-2 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other cruise other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 366240 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I had departed yip for mgj when after departure I heard what I thought was a controller telling me to climb to 3000 ft on course. When I switched over to detroit ATC they informed me that I was in the class B airspace and they gave me a south heading and to be level at 3500 ft. The controller acted very arrogant. I tried to hold my temper, but he got the best of me. I just wanted to get on my way. I requested 7500 ft and he (or someone) gave me a climb to 7500 ft. After a while, the controller told me to climb to 10500 ft, which I did, but questioned his action since eastbound traffic is odd thousand plus 500 ft. With my inquiry, he became again angry. I thought he was going to have a cow! I talked to the detroit ATC controller and he said that the reason everyone was so uptight was because government official was in town. Recommendation: there should be better communications between ATC and departure airport. Need some way to find bogus controller (anyone can transmit to an aircraft with a hand-held radio, which is what happened to me). This happened to me before on approach to bos. A bogus ATC controller told me to miss the approach, which I did, and had to ask the real controller for approach again.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CPR PLT OF AN MU2 RPTS THAT HE WAS, APPARENTLY, TOLD TO CLB BY SOMEONE OTHER THAN AN AUTH FAA CTLR AND HE ENTERED DTW'S CLASS B AIRSPACE. HE ALSO MENTIONED THAT THIS HAS HAPPENED TO HIM BEFORE.
Narrative: I HAD DEPARTED YIP FOR MGJ WHEN AFTER DEP I HEARD WHAT I THOUGHT WAS A CTLR TELLING ME TO CLB TO 3000 FT ON COURSE. WHEN I SWITCHED OVER TO DETROIT ATC THEY INFORMED ME THAT I WAS IN THE CLASS B AIRSPACE AND THEY GAVE ME A S HDG AND TO BE LEVEL AT 3500 FT. THE CTLR ACTED VERY ARROGANT. I TRIED TO HOLD MY TEMPER, BUT HE GOT THE BEST OF ME. I JUST WANTED TO GET ON MY WAY. I REQUESTED 7500 FT AND HE (OR SOMEONE) GAVE ME A CLB TO 7500 FT. AFTER A WHILE, THE CTLR TOLD ME TO CLB TO 10500 FT, WHICH I DID, BUT QUESTIONED HIS ACTION SINCE EBOUND TFC IS ODD THOUSAND PLUS 500 FT. WITH MY INQUIRY, HE BECAME AGAIN ANGRY. I THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO HAVE A COW! I TALKED TO THE DETROIT ATC CTLR AND HE SAID THAT THE REASON EVERYONE WAS SO UPTIGHT WAS BECAUSE GOV OFFICIAL WAS IN TOWN. RECOMMENDATION: THERE SHOULD BE BETTER COMS BTWN ATC AND DEP ARPT. NEED SOME WAY TO FIND BOGUS CTLR (ANYONE CAN XMIT TO AN ACFT WITH A HAND-HELD RADIO, WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENED TO ME). THIS HAPPENED TO ME BEFORE ON APCH TO BOS. A BOGUS ATC CTLR TOLD ME TO MISS THE APCH, WHICH I DID, AND HAD TO ASK THE REAL CTLR FOR APCH AGAIN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.