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DC8 cargo flight reported time over sarje intersection as the time they actually passed broom. Corrected the error with ZNY and re-estimated time jains intersection 11 mins later.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 366570 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199704 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : zqa |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 31000 msl bound upper : 31000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny tower : ont |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | DC-8 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute : atlantic enroute : other oceanic |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 1800 |
| ASRS Report | 366570 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On this date, on a flight from sbq to cae in non radar, we crossed broom intersection at XA43Z. We called new york commercial radio and gave the following position report: broom intersection XA43 FL310 estimating sarje at XA54, jains next. We crossed sarje at XA54Z. When we called new york commercial radio with our position report, we used the time we crossed broom intersection. We reported crossing sarje at XA43Z, estimating jains at XB03. We then corrected our report with new york commercial radio as sarje intersection at XA54, FL310 estimating jains at XB14 oldey next.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DC8 CARGO FLT RPTED TIME OVER SARJE INTXN AS THE TIME THEY ACTUALLY PASSED BROOM. CORRECTED THE ERROR WITH ZNY AND RE-ESTIMATED TIME JAINS INTXN 11 MINS LATER.
Narrative: ON THIS DATE, ON A FLT FROM SBQ TO CAE IN NON RADAR, WE CROSSED BROOM INTXN AT XA43Z. WE CALLED NEW YORK COMMERCIAL RADIO AND GAVE THE FOLLOWING POS RPT: BROOM INTXN XA43 FL310 ESTIMATING SARJE AT XA54, JAINS NEXT. WE CROSSED SARJE AT XA54Z. WHEN WE CALLED NEW YORK COMMERCIAL RADIO WITH OUR POS RPT, WE USED THE TIME WE CROSSED BROOM INTXN. WE RPTED XING SARJE AT XA43Z, ESTIMATING JAINS AT XB03. WE THEN CORRECTED OUR RPT WITH NEW YORK COMMERCIAL RADIO AS SARJE INTXN AT XA54, FL310 ESTIMATING JAINS AT XB14 OLDEY NEXT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.