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Attributes | |
ACN | 366990 |
Time | |
Date | 199704 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax tower : roa |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual arrival other enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 170 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 950 |
ASRS Report | 366990 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 2000 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
Our flight was cleared for the sadde 6 arrival to expect the ILS to runway 24R at lax. I was the PNF. We were asked to report the airport in sight. PF reported the airport in sight and we were told to expect a visual to runway 24L and given instructions to turn base behind traffic at our 1 O'clock which was landing on runway 24R. Also expect traffic on final for runway 25L and further traffic turning behind and inside our turn for runway 24R. As PNF I located the 3 aircraft pointed out by ATC. As we crossed behind the first aircraft going to runway 24R it was apparent that we were going to overshoot the runway 24L final course and I advised the PF of that fact and we increased the turn rate to correct back to course. Approach called us to confirm that we were correcting back and reminded us that there was traffic south of us for the south complex. PF stated that he had been looking at the wrong runway. When I checked the INS wind readout I noted a wind of 35 KTS form the north which had not been expected and thus not accounted for. That contributed to the overshoot. We were handed off to tower and landed uneventfully. We received a TA from the TCASII, generated by the aircraft on final for runway 25L. However, there were no other TCASII alerts and no RA's. Pilot misident of the landing runway, an unexpected crosswind tailwind component, and the proximity of other traffic all contributed to this incident.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WDB ACFT OVERSHOOTS TURN ON TO RWY 24L AT LAX DURING A DUSK VISUAL APCH. FO POINTS OUT CORRECT RWY AS PIC HAD BEEN LOOKING AT RWY 25R. TCASII TA ALERT OCCURS. AN UNACCOUNTED N WIND ASSISTED IN THE OVERSHOOT.
Narrative: OUR FLT WAS CLRED FOR THE SADDE 6 ARR TO EXPECT THE ILS TO RWY 24R AT LAX. I WAS THE PNF. WE WERE ASKED TO RPT THE ARPT IN SIGHT. PF RPTED THE ARPT IN SIGHT AND WE WERE TOLD TO EXPECT A VISUAL TO RWY 24L AND GIVEN INSTRUCTIONS TO TURN BASE BEHIND TFC AT OUR 1 O'CLOCK WHICH WAS LNDG ON RWY 24R. ALSO EXPECT TFC ON FINAL FOR RWY 25L AND FURTHER TFC TURNING BEHIND AND INSIDE OUR TURN FOR RWY 24R. AS PNF I LOCATED THE 3 ACFT POINTED OUT BY ATC. AS WE CROSSED BEHIND THE FIRST ACFT GOING TO RWY 24R IT WAS APPARENT THAT WE WERE GOING TO OVERSHOOT THE RWY 24L FINAL COURSE AND I ADVISED THE PF OF THAT FACT AND WE INCREASED THE TURN RATE TO CORRECT BACK TO COURSE. APCH CALLED US TO CONFIRM THAT WE WERE CORRECTING BACK AND REMINDED US THAT THERE WAS TFC S OF US FOR THE S COMPLEX. PF STATED THAT HE HAD BEEN LOOKING AT THE WRONG RWY. WHEN I CHKED THE INS WIND READOUT I NOTED A WIND OF 35 KTS FORM THE N WHICH HAD NOT BEEN EXPECTED AND THUS NOT ACCOUNTED FOR. THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THE OVERSHOOT. WE WERE HANDED OFF TO TWR AND LANDED UNEVENTFULLY. WE RECEIVED A TA FROM THE TCASII, GENERATED BY THE ACFT ON FINAL FOR RWY 25L. HOWEVER, THERE WERE NO OTHER TCASII ALERTS AND NO RA'S. PLT MISIDENT OF THE LNDG RWY, AN UNEXPECTED XWIND TAILWIND COMPONENT, AND THE PROX OF OTHER TFC ALL CONTRIBUTED TO THIS INCIDENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.