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Medium large transport aircraft on arrival with crossing restr. Approach controller told flight crew they had not made restr, but flight crew disputes it.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 368130 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199705 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : dvv |
| State Reference | CO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 19000 msl bound upper : 21500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : den |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : zdv enroute other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 150 |
| ASRS Report | 368130 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 180 |
| ASRS Report | 368134 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
On arrival into den IAP, we were given a heading to intercept the dvv 122 degree radial for the dandd 1 arrival. At 75 DME we intercepted the radial and were cleared to cross dandd at FL190 with no speed restr. At 55 DME, center asked if we were going to make the restr. We replied yes. At that time, we had a 2500-3000 FPM rate of descent and had passed through FL220 at dandd. We checked in on approach frequency at FL190. Shortly after, approach gave us a number and requested we call ZDV. We were not aware of a problem until I called ZDV. They said I was at FL215 at dandd.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG ACFT ON ARR WITH XING RESTR. APCH CTLR TOLD FLC THEY HAD NOT MADE RESTR, BUT FLC DISPUTES IT.
Narrative: ON ARR INTO DEN IAP, WE WERE GIVEN A HDG TO INTERCEPT THE DVV 122 DEG RADIAL FOR THE DANDD 1 ARR. AT 75 DME WE INTERCEPTED THE RADIAL AND WERE CLRED TO CROSS DANDD AT FL190 WITH NO SPD RESTR. AT 55 DME, CTR ASKED IF WE WERE GOING TO MAKE THE RESTR. WE REPLIED YES. AT THAT TIME, WE HAD A 2500-3000 FPM RATE OF DSCNT AND HAD PASSED THROUGH FL220 AT DANDD. WE CHKED IN ON APCH FREQ AT FL190. SHORTLY AFTER, APCH GAVE US A NUMBER AND REQUESTED WE CALL ZDV. WE WERE NOT AWARE OF A PROB UNTIL I CALLED ZDV. THEY SAID I WAS AT FL215 AT DANDD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.