<< >> NASA ASRS Report 368340, April 1997

Air carrier cargo large transport climbs to 15300 ft from 15000 ft when captain, PF, tries to help first officer who is new to INS.

Attributes
ACN	368340
Time
Date	199704
Day	Tue
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : edmm
State Reference	FO
Altitude	msl bound lower : 15000 msl bound upper : 15300
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : edmm
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Commercial Fixed Wing
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	cruise other
Route In Use	departure : noise abatement
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 6000
ASRS Report	368340
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance
Independent Detector	aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Was on my first flight as captain on one of our company's intra european flts and had just departed munich for paris. We were on climb out and I was hand flying the aircraft since the takeoff and SID required careful flying to get through the 'noise detector' field. The first officer and so were also on their first flts in the area. The first officer was having a difficult time programming in a new waypoint on the INS (he had never used one before, just studied it in ground school) and while I was attempting to help and monitor the ATC instructions he was getting from ATC (with a thick accent) I heard the altitude alert tone and noticed we had drifted up to 15300 ft from our assigned 15000 ft. I had manually leveled the aircraft at 15000 ft and was about to engage the autoplt when I noticed the first officer's trouble and directed my attention to him and away from flying the aircraft.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR CARGO LGT CLBS TO 15300 FT FROM 15000 FT WHEN CAPT, PF, TRIES TO HELP FO WHO IS NEW TO INS.

Narrative: WAS ON MY FIRST FLT AS CAPT ON ONE OF OUR COMPANY'S INTRA EUROPEAN FLTS AND HAD JUST DEPARTED MUNICH FOR PARIS. WE WERE ON CLBOUT AND I WAS HAND FLYING THE ACFT SINCE THE TKOF AND SID REQUIRED CAREFUL FLYING TO GET THROUGH THE 'NOISE DETECTOR' FIELD. THE FO AND SO WERE ALSO ON THEIR FIRST FLTS IN THE AREA. THE FO WAS HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME PROGRAMMING IN A NEW WAYPOINT ON THE INS (HE HAD NEVER USED ONE BEFORE, JUST STUDIED IT IN GND SCHOOL) AND WHILE I WAS ATTEMPTING TO HELP AND MONITOR THE ATC INSTRUCTIONS HE WAS GETTING FROM ATC (WITH A THICK ACCENT) I HEARD THE ALT ALERT TONE AND NOTICED WE HAD DRIFTED UP TO 15300 FT FROM OUR ASSIGNED 15000 FT. I HAD MANUALLY LEVELED THE ACFT AT 15000 FT AND WAS ABOUT TO ENGAGE THE AUTOPLT WHEN I NOTICED THE FO'S TROUBLE AND DIRECTED MY ATTN TO HIM AND AWAY FROM FLYING THE ACFT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.