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Attributes | |
ACN | 370383 |
Time | |
Date | 199705 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bur |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | PA-32 Cherokee Six/Lance/Saratoga |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Baron 55/Cochise |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 35 flight time total : 1770 flight time type : 1150 |
ASRS Report | 370383 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 30 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I received clearance to land on runway 8 and hold short of runway 15, a normal practice at burbank. I acknowledged the clearance. On final approach, the aircraft was high and, in losing altitude, arrived at the runway threshold fast. I still fully believed that I could stop prior to the intersection with runway. Due to the high airspeed, I landed further down the runway than normal and the aircraft ballooned up on landing. Upon actual touchdown, full braking was applied. The aircraft stopped short of actually entering runway 15, however, it did cross the hold short line, according to the tower. (I was busy stopping and didn't actually notice crossing the line.) a baron was landing simultaneously on runway 15, apparently without a hold short instruction, as I was later told by the tower. We both arrived at the intersection at the same time and both stopped short but there was a lot of tension (understandably) in the tower as it was all unfolding. In retrospect, I wish I had initiated a go around while on short final, while somewhat high and fast. Earlier acknowledgement of the potential problem would have resulted in less 'pucker factor' for all involved.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PA32 CLRED TO LAND RWY 8 HOLD SHORT RWY 15. AT SAME TIME BARON WAS CLRED TO LAND RWY 15. PA32 WAS A LITTLE FAST ON APCH, TOUCHED DOWN A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN THE RWY AND BOUNCED, RESULTING IN HARD BRAKING TO GET STOPPED. OVERSHOT HOLD LINE FOR RWY 15 BUT WAS SHORT OF THE RWY. BARON PASSED IN FRONT AT SAME TIME PA32 WAS STOPPED. TWR CONCERNED. PLT DEV.
Narrative: I RECEIVED CLRNC TO LAND ON RWY 8 AND HOLD SHORT OF RWY 15, A NORMAL PRACTICE AT BURBANK. I ACKNOWLEDGED THE CLRNC. ON FINAL APCH, THE ACFT WAS HIGH AND, IN LOSING ALT, ARRIVED AT THE RWY THRESHOLD FAST. I STILL FULLY BELIEVED THAT I COULD STOP PRIOR TO THE INTXN WITH RWY. DUE TO THE HIGH AIRSPD, I LANDED FURTHER DOWN THE RWY THAN NORMAL AND THE ACFT BALLOONED UP ON LNDG. UPON ACTUAL TOUCHDOWN, FULL BRAKING WAS APPLIED. THE ACFT STOPPED SHORT OF ACTUALLY ENTERING RWY 15, HOWEVER, IT DID CROSS THE HOLD SHORT LINE, ACCORDING TO THE TWR. (I WAS BUSY STOPPING AND DIDN'T ACTUALLY NOTICE XING THE LINE.) A BARON WAS LNDG SIMULTANEOUSLY ON RWY 15, APPARENTLY WITHOUT A HOLD SHORT INSTRUCTION, AS I WAS LATER TOLD BY THE TWR. WE BOTH ARRIVED AT THE INTXN AT THE SAME TIME AND BOTH STOPPED SHORT BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF TENSION (UNDERSTANDABLY) IN THE TWR AS IT WAS ALL UNFOLDING. IN RETROSPECT, I WISH I HAD INITIATED A GAR WHILE ON SHORT FINAL, WHILE SOMEWHAT HIGH AND FAST. EARLIER ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF THE POTENTIAL PROB WOULD HAVE RESULTED IN LESS 'PUCKER FACTOR' FOR ALL INVOLVED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.