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Attributes | |
ACN | 370634 |
Time | |
Date | 199705 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | ground : holding ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | ground : holding ground other : taxi landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 370634 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : became reoriented |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
Scheduled flight number was changed from abxy to agxy. I believe there was a change of tail numbers because the originating flight abxy was late. The problem arose when our flight abxy was holding short of runway 24L at lax as the late flight abxy was landing runway 24R and holding short of runway 24L downfield. Although the flight number changed on the release, dispatch failed to notify the pilots on our crew, and los angeles clearance delivery. Also, our operations agent failed to notify us. Our first indication was both flts being contacted by lax tower with some confusion on tower frequency.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: 2 ACR MLGS IN OP AT LAX WITH THE SAME FLT NUMBER. ONE DEP AND ONE ARRIVING. THE ARR FLT WAS LATE, THE DEP FLT HAD A NEW FLT NUMBER ASSIGNED BY DISPATCHER BUT DISPATCH HAD FAILED TO COORDINATE WITH CLRNC DELIVERY. FLC FAILED TO NOTE THE NEWLY ASSIGNED FLT NUMBER WHEN SIGNING THE RELEASE. TWR WAS CONFUSED.
Narrative: SCHEDULED FLT NUMBER WAS CHANGED FROM ABXY TO AGXY. I BELIEVE THERE WAS A CHANGE OF TAIL NUMBERS BECAUSE THE ORIGINATING FLT ABXY WAS LATE. THE PROB AROSE WHEN OUR FLT ABXY WAS HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 24L AT LAX AS THE LATE FLT ABXY WAS LNDG RWY 24R AND HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 24L DOWNFIELD. ALTHOUGH THE FLT NUMBER CHANGED ON THE RELEASE, DISPATCH FAILED TO NOTIFY THE PLTS ON OUR CREW, AND LOS ANGELES CLRNC DELIVERY. ALSO, OUR OPS AGENT FAILED TO NOTIFY US. OUR FIRST INDICATION WAS BOTH FLTS BEING CONTACTED BY LAX TWR WITH SOME CONFUSION ON TWR FREQ.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.