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Attributes | |
ACN | 370783 |
Time | |
Date | 199706 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : usr |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 28000 msl bound upper : 28000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : mkjk |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-8 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct enroute airway : ua301 enroute other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 5200 flight time type : 2600 |
ASRS Report | 370783 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe conflict : nmac inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 600 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Were on UA301 heading south towards kingston. Due to WX we had to turn around back to mia at FL270. While coordinating an altitude change to FL260 or FL280 with both havana and kingston center, we were cleared to FL280, direct to usr. When completing the turn back north, first officer noticed another airplane fly by our airplane. Type of other aircraft unknown. Right now, there is no regulation requiring part 121 cargo aircraft to have TCASII. TCASII would have definitely helped us see this aircraft in the clouds.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DC8 FREIGHTER HAS NMAC WITH UNKNOWN TYPE ACFT AT FL280. DC8 HAD REVERSED COURSE ACCOUNT WX AHEAD AND CLBED TO FL280 FROM FL270 IN ACCORD WITH ATC CLRNC. AN APPARENT PROB OF COORD BTWN MKJK AND MUHA ARTCC.
Narrative: WERE ON UA301 HEADING S TOWARDS KINGSTON. DUE TO WX WE HAD TO TURN AROUND BACK TO MIA AT FL270. WHILE COORDINATING AN ALT CHANGE TO FL260 OR FL280 WITH BOTH HAVANA AND KINGSTON CTR, WE WERE CLRED TO FL280, DIRECT TO USR. WHEN COMPLETING THE TURN BACK N, FO NOTICED ANOTHER AIRPLANE FLY BY OUR AIRPLANE. TYPE OF OTHER ACFT UNKNOWN. RIGHT NOW, THERE IS NO REG REQUIRING PART 121 CARGO ACFT TO HAVE TCASII. TCASII WOULD HAVE DEFINITELY HELPED US SEE THIS ACFT IN THE CLOUDS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.