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A widebody transport descending into dtw, mi, overshot altitude by 300 ft. Flight crew make correction and returns aircraft to proper altitude of 6000 ft.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 371194 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199706 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dtw |
| State Reference | MI |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 5700 msl bound upper : 6000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : dtw |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | DC-10 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 2600 flight time type : 50 |
| ASRS Report | 371194 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 1050 |
| ASRS Report | 371190 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was the first officer of flight XXX on jun/xo/97. Upon descent into detroit, we were cleared to descend to 8000 ft by approach control. Passing approximately 7850 ft the so said 'we're cleared to 8000 ft.' I applied power, pulled up and leveled at 8000 ft. I believe we got down as low as 7700 ft. I cannot think of any unusual distractions that could have caused this deviation. I am not an inexperienced aviator, however I am new to the DC10 and was on the first trip of my IOE. The captain and I discussed the use of the autothrottles on leveloff from dscnts. Supplemental information from acn 371190: the so called '6000 ft' at 5910 ft, we were cleared to 6000 ft. I intended to let the new first officer correct his mistake but he continued to descend. I pulled back on the wheel at 5800 ft but we incurred turbulence or windshear and the aircraft just reached 5700 ft before climbing back to 6000 ft. Supplemental information from acn 371345: cleared to 6000 ft. Altitude deviation of 300 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A WDB DSNDING INTO DTW, MI, OVERSHOT ALT BY 300 FT. FLC MAKE CORRECTION AND RETURNS ACFT TO PROPER ALT OF 6000 FT.
Narrative: I WAS THE FO OF FLT XXX ON JUN/XO/97. UPON DSCNT INTO DETROIT, WE WERE CLRED TO DSND TO 8000 FT BY APCH CTL. PASSING APPROX 7850 FT THE SO SAID 'WE'RE CLRED TO 8000 FT.' I APPLIED PWR, PULLED UP AND LEVELED AT 8000 FT. I BELIEVE WE GOT DOWN AS LOW AS 7700 FT. I CANNOT THINK OF ANY UNUSUAL DISTRACTIONS THAT COULD HAVE CAUSED THIS DEV. I AM NOT AN INEXPERIENCED AVIATOR, HOWEVER I AM NEW TO THE DC10 AND WAS ON THE FIRST TRIP OF MY IOE. THE CAPT AND I DISCUSSED THE USE OF THE AUTOTHROTTLES ON LEVELOFF FROM DSCNTS. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 371190: THE SO CALLED '6000 FT' AT 5910 FT, WE WERE CLRED TO 6000 FT. I INTENDED TO LET THE NEW FO CORRECT HIS MISTAKE BUT HE CONTINUED TO DSND. I PULLED BACK ON THE WHEEL AT 5800 FT BUT WE INCURRED TURB OR WINDSHEAR AND THE ACFT JUST REACHED 5700 FT BEFORE CLBING BACK TO 6000 FT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 371345: CLRED TO 6000 FT. ALTDEV OF 300 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.