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Attributes | |
ACN | 371621 |
Time | |
Date | 199706 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ama |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 6000 msl bound upper : 6500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ama |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Cessna 401 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Bonanza 36 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 2300 flight time type : 2300 |
ASRS Report | 371621 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 1500 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Traffic was called to us as 11 O'clock and 3 mi, northbound, 6500 ft (same direction) type unknown. We spotted traffic and called it 'in sight.' after several moments, we heard the traffic check on the frequency as an inbound VFR. Controller was busy and gave traffic a squawk code, but did not take time to verify his position, or to notify traffic of our close proximity (approximately, 1/4 - 1/2 mi). Traffic descended through our altitude, and ATC issued approach vectors to us, and approximately the same vectors to traffic, which was now under us, unaware of us, and out of our sight. This, we felt, was a very dangerous situation. ATC was preoccupied with sequencing arrival jet traffic, and we feel did not appreciate the urgency of our situation. We were unable to communicate with ATC due to frequency saturation. Eventually, the bonanza was allowed to turn inside us for the approach, and we followed. We landed uneventfully. Mitigating factors were the controller's stress level (we could hear it in his voice) and our irritation that the bonanza, which was slower, and which checked on later, was allowed to go first on the approach.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF A C401 CARGO OP HAS CLOSE PROX WITH BE36 ON DSCNT AND APCH WHILE IN COM WITH TRACON.
Narrative: TFC WAS CALLED TO US AS 11 O'CLOCK AND 3 MI, NBOUND, 6500 FT (SAME DIRECTION) TYPE UNKNOWN. WE SPOTTED TFC AND CALLED IT 'IN SIGHT.' AFTER SEVERAL MOMENTS, WE HEARD THE TFC CHK ON THE FREQ AS AN INBOUND VFR. CTLR WAS BUSY AND GAVE TFC A SQUAWK CODE, BUT DID NOT TAKE TIME TO VERIFY HIS POS, OR TO NOTIFY TFC OF OUR CLOSE PROX (APPROX, 1/4 - 1/2 MI). TFC DSNDED THROUGH OUR ALT, AND ATC ISSUED APCH VECTORS TO US, AND APPROX THE SAME VECTORS TO TFC, WHICH WAS NOW UNDER US, UNAWARE OF US, AND OUT OF OUR SIGHT. THIS, WE FELT, WAS A VERY DANGEROUS SIT. ATC WAS PREOCCUPIED WITH SEQUENCING ARR JET TFC, AND WE FEEL DID NOT APPRECIATE THE URGENCY OF OUR SIT. WE WERE UNABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH ATC DUE TO FREQ SATURATION. EVENTUALLY, THE BONANZA WAS ALLOWED TO TURN INSIDE US FOR THE APCH, AND WE FOLLOWED. WE LANDED UNEVENTFULLY. MITIGATING FACTORS WERE THE CTLR'S STRESS LEVEL (WE COULD HEAR IT IN HIS VOICE) AND OUR IRRITATION THAT THE BONANZA, WHICH WAS SLOWER, AND WHICH CHKED ON LATER, WAS ALLOWED TO GO FIRST ON THE APCH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.