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This air carrier MD80 flight crew believes that there is a variance between the outbound radial of 307 degrees from cqy and the inbound radial of 127 degrees to dfw. This is the last leg of the cedar creek one arrival and no other reports have been received except from this reporter on 2 occasions. See acn 371990 and 371991.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 372007 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199706 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : cqy airport : dfw |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : dfw |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other other vortac |
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 372007 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
| Situations | |
| Navigational Aid | Unspecified |
Narrative:
This is a follow up to a debrief I did yesterday on this same arrival. Flying the arrival again today (cedar creek) between cedar creek and dfw with the appropriate radials dialed in there is at least 1 DOT variance between the two. We forwarded this information to approach and are just following up with this debrief as this problem needs to be fixed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: THIS ACR MD80 FLC BELIEVES THAT THERE IS A VARIANCE BTWN THE OUTBOUND RADIAL OF 307 DEGS FROM CQY AND THE INBOUND RADIAL OF 127 DEGS TO DFW. THIS IS THE LAST LEG OF THE CEDAR CREEK ONE ARR AND NO OTHER RPTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED EXCEPT FROM THIS RPTR ON 2 OCCASIONS. SEE ACN 371990 AND 371991.
Narrative: THIS IS A FOLLOW UP TO A DEBRIEF I DID YESTERDAY ON THIS SAME ARR. FLYING THE ARR AGAIN TODAY (CEDAR CREEK) BTWN CEDAR CREEK AND DFW WITH THE APPROPRIATE RADIALS DIALED IN THERE IS AT LEAST 1 DOT VARIANCE BTWN THE TWO. WE FORWARDED THIS INFO TO APCH AND ARE JUST FOLLOWING UP WITH THIS DEBRIEF AS THIS PROB NEEDS TO BE FIXED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.