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An air carrier medium large transport has a runway incursion at cle because the hold short lines are confusing. He taxies to runway 28 with the intention of holding short of runway 23L but the hold short line is painted on runway 28.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 372996 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199707 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : cle |
| State Reference | OH |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 5000 |
| ASRS Report | 372996 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
| Situations | |
| Airport | other physical facility |
Narrative:
Taxi instructions from ground were vague and unclr, however, since traffic was light, I proceeded toward departure runway with the intent to clarify as we got closer to runway. We were changed to tower first who told us to taxi onto runway 28 and hold short of runway 23L. As I was still thinking about the original confusion on taxi and looking for approaching traffic while complying with tower instructions, I was distraction and didn't see the runway 23L hold short lines which are painted on runway 28. I stopped just past this line and tower then instructed me to taxi forward across runway 23L and into position on runway 23R for departure. This was all done with an aircraft on 1 1/2 mi final to runway 23L and an aircraft holding in position on runway 23R. I have had similar events at cleveland airport due to the close proximity of 3 runways and txwys.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR MLG HAS A RWY INCURSION AT CLE BECAUSE THE HOLD SHORT LINES ARE CONFUSING. HE TAXIES TO RWY 28 WITH THE INTENTION OF HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 23L BUT THE HOLD SHORT LINE IS PAINTED ON RWY 28.
Narrative: TAXI INSTRUCTIONS FROM GND WERE VAGUE AND UNCLR, HOWEVER, SINCE TFC WAS LIGHT, I PROCEEDED TOWARD DEP RWY WITH THE INTENT TO CLARIFY AS WE GOT CLOSER TO RWY. WE WERE CHANGED TO TWR FIRST WHO TOLD US TO TAXI ONTO RWY 28 AND HOLD SHORT OF RWY 23L. AS I WAS STILL THINKING ABOUT THE ORIGINAL CONFUSION ON TAXI AND LOOKING FOR APCHING TFC WHILE COMPLYING WITH TWR INSTRUCTIONS, I WAS DISTR AND DIDN'T SEE THE RWY 23L HOLD SHORT LINES WHICH ARE PAINTED ON RWY 28. I STOPPED JUST PAST THIS LINE AND TWR THEN INSTRUCTED ME TO TAXI FORWARD ACROSS RWY 23L AND INTO POS ON RWY 23R FOR DEP. THIS WAS ALL DONE WITH AN ACFT ON 1 1/2 MI FINAL TO RWY 23L AND AN ACFT HOLDING IN POS ON RWY 23R. I HAVE HAD SIMILAR EVENTS AT CLEVELAND ARPT DUE TO THE CLOSE PROX OF 3 RWYS AND TXWYS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.