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Attributes | |
ACN | 373240 |
Time | |
Date | 199707 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 500 agl bound upper : 500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ord |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Military Transport |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : military |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : military |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 373240 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : military |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : military |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Returning from last event, we flew underneath the eastern edge of the ord TCA at about 250 KIAS. During mission debrief, the topic of airspeed limits under a TCA came up and we found we may have exceeded the applicable limits. After 3.2 has at 250 KIAS while flying 1000 ft AGL over land at 500-700 ft AGL over the water (lake michigan) I didn't think about the speed restrs. Maneuvering closer to the shoreline east of chicago when returning from the last fly-over in indiana to avoid rain showers over lake michigan put us west of our intended straight line course and put us under the lateral limits of the TCA which was not planned. We should have had a better idea of the implications of maneuvering west of course and should have remembered the speed restrs.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A MIL TRANSPORT FLC FLEW UNDER THE ORD CLASS B FLOOR AT 250 KIAS IN VIOLATION OF SPD RESTRS. ERROR ADMITTED.
Narrative: RETURNING FROM LAST EVENT, WE FLEW UNDERNEATH THE EASTERN EDGE OF THE ORD TCA AT ABOUT 250 KIAS. DURING MISSION DEBRIEF, THE TOPIC OF AIRSPD LIMITS UNDER A TCA CAME UP AND WE FOUND WE MAY HAVE EXCEEDED THE APPLICABLE LIMITS. AFTER 3.2 HAS AT 250 KIAS WHILE FLYING 1000 FT AGL OVER LAND AT 500-700 FT AGL OVER THE WATER (LAKE MICHIGAN) I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THE SPD RESTRS. MANEUVERING CLOSER TO THE SHORELINE E OF CHICAGO WHEN RETURNING FROM THE LAST FLY-OVER IN INDIANA TO AVOID RAIN SHOWERS OVER LAKE MICHIGAN PUT US W OF OUR INTENDED STRAIGHT LINE COURSE AND PUT US UNDER THE LATERAL LIMITS OF THE TCA WHICH WAS NOT PLANNED. WE SHOULD HAVE HAD A BETTER IDEA OF THE IMPLICATIONS OF MANEUVERING W OF COURSE AND SHOULD HAVE REMEMBERED THE SPD RESTRS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.