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Attributes | |
ACN | 373690 |
Time | |
Date | 199706 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : rno |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 15000 msl bound upper : 15000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : rno |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 1100 |
ASRS Report | 373690 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : far non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The flight was IFR from rno to acv. As we climbed out the copilot who was flying in the left seat asked me to request a VFR climb from reno departure. They acknowledged our request and issued the clearance to 'climb VFR.' we turned west and were given traffic (VFR) to watch for. We then climbed above 15000 ft which we were assigned. There was some confusion while we watched for traffic and discussed whether a VFR climb was a climb in VFR conditions to an assigned altitude or a suspension of the IFR clearance the PF returned to 15000 ft. I contacted ZOA and said we were VFR and would like to continue on an IFR clearance. They reissued our IFR and a climb to FL230.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CPR FLC IN AN MDT GOT A VFR CLB FROM RNO DEP, BUT OVERSHOT THEIR ASSIGNED ALT. THEY RETURNED TO IT WITH NO APPARENT CONFLICT. FLC CONFUSED ABOUT CLRNC RESTR.
Narrative: THE FLT WAS IFR FROM RNO TO ACV. AS WE CLBED OUT THE COPLT WHO WAS FLYING IN THE L SEAT ASKED ME TO REQUEST A VFR CLB FROM RENO DEP. THEY ACKNOWLEDGED OUR REQUEST AND ISSUED THE CLRNC TO 'CLB VFR.' WE TURNED W AND WERE GIVEN TFC (VFR) TO WATCH FOR. WE THEN CLBED ABOVE 15000 FT WHICH WE WERE ASSIGNED. THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION WHILE WE WATCHED FOR TFC AND DISCUSSED WHETHER A VFR CLB WAS A CLB IN VFR CONDITIONS TO AN ASSIGNED ALT OR A SUSPENSION OF THE IFR CLRNC THE PF RETURNED TO 15000 FT. I CONTACTED ZOA AND SAID WE WERE VFR AND WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE ON AN IFR CLRNC. THEY REISSUED OUR IFR AND A CLB TO FL230.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.