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Attributes | |
ACN | 374175 |
Time | |
Date | 199707 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ftw |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3500 msl bound upper : 3500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dfw |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Beech F90 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | SF 340B |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | other other : other pilot : private pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 600 flight time type : 8 |
ASRS Report | 374175 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 373970 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | other other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 3000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After takeoff from dfw, started turn to easterly heading and contacted dfw approach, was given squawk code and told to remain clear of class B airspace. Continued turn to north, climbing to 3500 ft (floor of class B airspace 4000 ft MSL). After reaching 3500 ft, leveled off, and in a few moments was given a TA. Looked for the traffic and saw a saab 340 descending through our altitude, I maintained separation and continued on. ATC then asked my altitude and I replied 3500 ft. ATC then said I was in class B airspace and to descend to 2500 ft. I started a descent to 2500 ft, but was sure the class B airspace floor was 4000 ft MSL in the area I was flying. After being handed off to another controller, the new voice gave us a phone number to call after landing at our destination, mckinney, tx. I made the call and was told that the TCASII went off in the saab causing a conflict alert. I told the ATC supervisor that the floor of the class B airspace in that area was 4000 ft and I didn't think I was in violation and he said that all TCASII alerts require a phone call. I think the saab descended into uncontrolled airspace on the way inbound to dfw and caused the TCASII to go off. I very rarely fly in this airspace, but in the future I will file an IFR flight plan so I will be allowed in class B airspace and given spacing from other aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF A BEECH BE90, MAY HAVE PENETRATED CLASS B AIRSPACE DURING A VFR CLBOUT FROM AN ARPT UNDERNEATH THE FLOOR OF THE CLASS B AIRSPACE RESULTING IN A CONFLICT WITH A SAAB 340 DSNDING.
Narrative: AFTER TKOF FROM DFW, STARTED TURN TO EASTERLY HDG AND CONTACTED DFW APCH, WAS GIVEN SQUAWK CODE AND TOLD TO REMAIN CLR OF CLASS B AIRSPACE. CONTINUED TURN TO N, CLBING TO 3500 FT (FLOOR OF CLASS B AIRSPACE 4000 FT MSL). AFTER REACHING 3500 FT, LEVELED OFF, AND IN A FEW MOMENTS WAS GIVEN A TA. LOOKED FOR THE TFC AND SAW A SAAB 340 DSNDING THROUGH OUR ALT, I MAINTAINED SEPARATION AND CONTINUED ON. ATC THEN ASKED MY ALT AND I REPLIED 3500 FT. ATC THEN SAID I WAS IN CLASS B AIRSPACE AND TO DSND TO 2500 FT. I STARTED A DSCNT TO 2500 FT, BUT WAS SURE THE CLASS B AIRSPACE FLOOR WAS 4000 FT MSL IN THE AREA I WAS FLYING. AFTER BEING HANDED OFF TO ANOTHER CTLR, THE NEW VOICE GAVE US A PHONE NUMBER TO CALL AFTER LNDG AT OUR DEST, MCKINNEY, TX. I MADE THE CALL AND WAS TOLD THAT THE TCASII WENT OFF IN THE SAAB CAUSING A CONFLICT ALERT. I TOLD THE ATC SUPVR THAT THE FLOOR OF THE CLASS B AIRSPACE IN THAT AREA WAS 4000 FT AND I DIDN'T THINK I WAS IN VIOLATION AND HE SAID THAT ALL TCASII ALERTS REQUIRE A PHONE CALL. I THINK THE SAAB DSNDED INTO UNCTLED AIRSPACE ON THE WAY INBOUND TO DFW AND CAUSED THE TCASII TO GO OFF. I VERY RARELY FLY IN THIS AIRSPACE, BUT IN THE FUTURE I WILL FILE AN IFR FLT PLAN SO I WILL BE ALLOWED IN CLASS B AIRSPACE AND GIVEN SPACING FROM OTHER ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.