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Attributes | |
ACN | 375074 |
Time | |
Date | 199707 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : tus |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5500 msl bound upper : 6000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : tus tower : fll |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach descent other |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 9000 |
ASRS Report | 375074 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 3800 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 374773 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : became reoriented |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Approaching for landing at tus at night to land on runway 11L. Approach kept asking if we had the airport and the 3 crew members were looking for it and we saw it, but the aircraft went to 5600 ft MSL before we could notify approach we had it and be cleared for a visual approach. We did climb back to 6000 ft. Also got a GPWS going over the peak of hill to west of airport. It was a momentary signal. Cures for event: 1) less emphasis on getting pilots to accept a visual approach. We fly to many airports and may not go to any one airport for a yr or more. 2) 1 person must fly airplane if others are going to look outside or attend to other activities. 3) leave airplane on autoplt to reduce workload. I was hand flying aircraft at that point and was after we had climbed back up to 6000 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR B727 FLC ATTEMPTING TO ACQUIRE THE ARPT VISUALLY FORGOT TO HAVE SOMEONE FLY THE ACFT AND THEY DSNDED BELOW THEIR ASSIGNED ALT AND GOT A TERRAIN WARNING AS WELL AS AN ALT ALERT.
Narrative: APCHING FOR LNDG AT TUS AT NIGHT TO LAND ON RWY 11L. APCH KEPT ASKING IF WE HAD THE ARPT AND THE 3 CREW MEMBERS WERE LOOKING FOR IT AND WE SAW IT, BUT THE ACFT WENT TO 5600 FT MSL BEFORE WE COULD NOTIFY APCH WE HAD IT AND BE CLRED FOR A VISUAL APCH. WE DID CLB BACK TO 6000 FT. ALSO GOT A GPWS GOING OVER THE PEAK OF HILL TO W OF ARPT. IT WAS A MOMENTARY SIGNAL. CURES FOR EVENT: 1) LESS EMPHASIS ON GETTING PLTS TO ACCEPT A VISUAL APCH. WE FLY TO MANY ARPTS AND MAY NOT GO TO ANY ONE ARPT FOR A YR OR MORE. 2) 1 PERSON MUST FLY AIRPLANE IF OTHERS ARE GOING TO LOOK OUTSIDE OR ATTEND TO OTHER ACTIVITIES. 3) LEAVE AIRPLANE ON AUTOPLT TO REDUCE WORKLOAD. I WAS HAND FLYING ACFT AT THAT POINT AND WAS AFTER WE HAD CLBED BACK UP TO 6000 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.