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Attributes | |
ACN | 378961 |
Time | |
Date | 199708 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dtw |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time total : 11000 |
ASRS Report | 378961 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 4800 flight time type : 250 |
ASRS Report | 377110 |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : landing without clearance inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Was given WX much better than actual on ATIS. After passing 1000 ft AGL, was concerned with landing and when will we break out. In the change from good to bad WX, I did not get clearance to land. Nothing was said by tower. Supplemental information from acn 377110: approach instructed us to call tower at rev-up (OM) which was approximately 5 mi ahead. We acknowledged but got distraction by the WX which was evidently much worse than the latest ATIS. Add to this the checklists to be done and the instruction to maintain 170 KIAS till OM (which led to late confign for landing), the captain and myself forgot to contact tower and landed without clearance. To prevent this occurring in IMC when workload is high, suggest ATC (approach) not tell us to call tower a few mi ahead, but rather just tell us to contact tower now (whenever and wherever we may be) to avoid forgetting to change frequencys. Higher than standard speeds on approachs does not help in timely accomplishment of duties, either!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A BUSY WORKING FLC ON AN LTT FORGETS TO OBTAIN LNDG CLRNC AT DTW, MI.
Narrative: WAS GIVEN WX MUCH BETTER THAN ACTUAL ON ATIS. AFTER PASSING 1000 FT AGL, WAS CONCERNED WITH LNDG AND WHEN WILL WE BREAK OUT. IN THE CHANGE FROM GOOD TO BAD WX, I DID NOT GET CLRNC TO LAND. NOTHING WAS SAID BY TWR. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 377110: APCH INSTRUCTED US TO CALL TWR AT REV-UP (OM) WHICH WAS APPROX 5 MI AHEAD. WE ACKNOWLEDGED BUT GOT DISTR BY THE WX WHICH WAS EVIDENTLY MUCH WORSE THAN THE LATEST ATIS. ADD TO THIS THE CHKLISTS TO BE DONE AND THE INSTRUCTION TO MAINTAIN 170 KIAS TILL OM (WHICH LED TO LATE CONFIGN FOR LNDG), THE CAPT AND MYSELF FORGOT TO CONTACT TWR AND LANDED WITHOUT CLRNC. TO PREVENT THIS OCCURRING IN IMC WHEN WORKLOAD IS HIGH, SUGGEST ATC (APCH) NOT TELL US TO CALL TWR A FEW MI AHEAD, BUT RATHER JUST TELL US TO CONTACT TWR NOW (WHENEVER AND WHEREVER WE MAY BE) TO AVOID FORGETTING TO CHANGE FREQS. HIGHER THAN STANDARD SPDS ON APCHS DOES NOT HELP IN TIMELY ACCOMPLISHMENT OF DUTIES, EITHER!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.