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Attributes | |
ACN | 380800 |
Time | |
Date | 199709 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ehf |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 23000 msl bound upper : 25000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zoa |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | British Aerospace Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 40 |
ASRS Report | 380800 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : far non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The hawker hunter jet aircraft was on display at an airshow and was scheduled to perform a display fly-by around XA00 local. The pilot contacted ZOA by telephone 4-5 hours prior to his scheduled flight to discuss arrangements which would allow him to perform his display fly-by and then continue en route back to vny. The area supervisor filed a flight plan on the pilot's behalf with a requested cruise altitude of FL250. This altitude was requested so that the pilot could obtain more favorable fuel consumption in the former military jet he was flying, even though the duration of the flight was planned at only 30 mins. The pilot flew his display and then began an en route climb while, at the same time, talking to departure. Flight conditions along the entire route and at all altitudes were clear with over 25 mi of visibility. Although a pop-up clearance was prearranged, activating the clearance was delayed slightly which resulted in the aircraft being farther along its flight than originally anticipated. Once a clearance was obtained, the aircraft was progressively stepped to higher altitudes, the final assigned being FL230. The pilot acknowledged the last transmission and began his final climb. Rather than stopping at FL230, the pilot inadvertently climbed to his originally requested FL250. A mechanical assigned altitude reminder device, normally used by the pilot, was not in this aircraft which may have been a contributing factor in this event. During the last stage of his climb, in particular after exceeding FL230, the pilot was never contacted by ZOA to alert him to the fact that he had exceeded his assigned altitude. A courtesy advisory of this type is normally made when a plane deviates even 300 ft above or below an assigned altitude, let alone when it climbs to 2000 ft above it. In fact, it is the pilot's recollection that no mention of his having exceeded the assigned altitude was ever made during the entire flight. The only question raised later in the flight by a controller was whether or not the aircraft's transponder was operating properly. The pilot responded that he believed it was. The aircraft leveled off and remained at FL250 for only a few mins before the pilot requested and obtained permission to begin a descent. As prearranged during the original telephone call with ZOA, the pilot intended to cancel IFR upon descending below FL180 and continue VFR to vny. This is what he did and how the flight terminated without any further incident. Although the aircraft ascended to the wrong altitude, there were never any traffic conflicts during this flight. This is according to a telephone conversation with the area supervisor in ZOA held shortly after landing at vny. It was during this same telephone conversation that the first explicit mention of the pilot having exceeded the assigned altitude was even made. In a subsequent telephone call made several days later to ZOA by the pilot, additional information was revealed. Apparently the aircraft code entered on the flight plan was hwkr, however, this is not the proper code for a hawker hunter nor is it the code given to center over the telephone by the pilot. It is not even clear whether hwkr is a valid code at all. It appears that the center's computer observed rate of climb for the act was not consistent with its database 'average' value for hwkr and, therefore, the computer determined that the aircraft's mode C altitude might also be in error. As a result of the computer's conclusion, it displayed multiple 'X' on the controller's screen in lieu of the mode C reported altitude of FL250. This may account for why the pilot was asked about the condition of the aircraft's transponder. A direct consequence of the non specific altitude on the screen was that the ZOA controller did not realize that the hunter had passed through its assigned altitude and, hence, did not attempt to contact the pilot and alert him of his transgression. During this same telephone call, it was also pointed out that although ZLA had noted the aircraft at a higher altitude than assigned, it apparently did not notify ZOA of its observation. And by the time the aircraft was handed over to ZLA, the pilot was already requesting to descend to a lower altitude for the purpose of canceling IFR. He was cleared to do so and continued on to vny as a VFR flight.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A HAWKER HUNTER PLT CLBED ABOVE HIS ASSIGNED ALT WHILE RETURNING TO HIS HOME ARPT AFTER AN AIRSHOW. HE IS PUZZLED AS TO WHY HE WAS NOT ADVISED OF HIS ERROR BY THE ARTCC RADAR CTLR.
Narrative: THE HAWKER HUNTER JET ACFT WAS ON DISPLAY AT AN AIRSHOW AND WAS SCHEDULED TO PERFORM A DISPLAY FLY-BY AROUND XA00 LCL. THE PLT CONTACTED ZOA BY TELEPHONE 4-5 HRS PRIOR TO HIS SCHEDULED FLT TO DISCUSS ARRANGEMENTS WHICH WOULD ALLOW HIM TO PERFORM HIS DISPLAY FLY-BY AND THEN CONTINUE ENRTE BACK TO VNY. THE AREA SUPVR FILED A FLT PLAN ON THE PLT'S BEHALF WITH A REQUESTED CRUISE ALT OF FL250. THIS ALT WAS REQUESTED SO THAT THE PLT COULD OBTAIN MORE FAVORABLE FUEL CONSUMPTION IN THE FORMER MIL JET HE WAS FLYING, EVEN THOUGH THE DURATION OF THE FLT WAS PLANNED AT ONLY 30 MINS. THE PLT FLEW HIS DISPLAY AND THEN BEGAN AN ENRTE CLB WHILE, AT THE SAME TIME, TALKING TO DEP. FLT CONDITIONS ALONG THE ENTIRE RTE AND AT ALL ALTS WERE CLR WITH OVER 25 MI OF VISIBILITY. ALTHOUGH A POP-UP CLRNC WAS PREARRANGED, ACTIVATING THE CLRNC WAS DELAYED SLIGHTLY WHICH RESULTED IN THE ACFT BEING FARTHER ALONG ITS FLT THAN ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED. ONCE A CLRNC WAS OBTAINED, THE ACFT WAS PROGRESSIVELY STEPPED TO HIGHER ALTS, THE FINAL ASSIGNED BEING FL230. THE PLT ACKNOWLEDGED THE LAST XMISSION AND BEGAN HIS FINAL CLB. RATHER THAN STOPPING AT FL230, THE PLT INADVERTENTLY CLBED TO HIS ORIGINALLY REQUESTED FL250. A MECHANICAL ASSIGNED ALT REMINDER DEVICE, NORMALLY USED BY THE PLT, WAS NOT IN THIS ACFT WHICH MAY HAVE BEEN A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR IN THIS EVENT. DURING THE LAST STAGE OF HIS CLB, IN PARTICULAR AFTER EXCEEDING FL230, THE PLT WAS NEVER CONTACTED BY ZOA TO ALERT HIM TO THE FACT THAT HE HAD EXCEEDED HIS ASSIGNED ALT. A COURTESY ADVISORY OF THIS TYPE IS NORMALLY MADE WHEN A PLANE DEVIATES EVEN 300 FT ABOVE OR BELOW AN ASSIGNED ALT, LET ALONE WHEN IT CLBS TO 2000 FT ABOVE IT. IN FACT, IT IS THE PLT'S RECOLLECTION THAT NO MENTION OF HIS HAVING EXCEEDED THE ASSIGNED ALT WAS EVER MADE DURING THE ENTIRE FLT. THE ONLY QUESTION RAISED LATER IN THE FLT BY A CTLR WAS WHETHER OR NOT THE ACFT'S XPONDER WAS OPERATING PROPERLY. THE PLT RESPONDED THAT HE BELIEVED IT WAS. THE ACFT LEVELED OFF AND REMAINED AT FL250 FOR ONLY A FEW MINS BEFORE THE PLT REQUESTED AND OBTAINED PERMISSION TO BEGIN A DSCNT. AS PREARRANGED DURING THE ORIGINAL TELEPHONE CALL WITH ZOA, THE PLT INTENDED TO CANCEL IFR UPON DSNDING BELOW FL180 AND CONTINUE VFR TO VNY. THIS IS WHAT HE DID AND HOW THE FLT TERMINATED WITHOUT ANY FURTHER INCIDENT. ALTHOUGH THE ACFT ASCENDED TO THE WRONG ALT, THERE WERE NEVER ANY TFC CONFLICTS DURING THIS FLT. THIS IS ACCORDING TO A TELEPHONE CONVERSATION WITH THE AREA SUPVR IN ZOA HELD SHORTLY AFTER LNDG AT VNY. IT WAS DURING THIS SAME TELEPHONE CONVERSATION THAT THE FIRST EXPLICIT MENTION OF THE PLT HAVING EXCEEDED THE ASSIGNED ALT WAS EVEN MADE. IN A SUBSEQUENT TELEPHONE CALL MADE SEVERAL DAYS LATER TO ZOA BY THE PLT, ADDITIONAL INFO WAS REVEALED. APPARENTLY THE ACFT CODE ENTERED ON THE FLT PLAN WAS HWKR, HOWEVER, THIS IS NOT THE PROPER CODE FOR A HAWKER HUNTER NOR IS IT THE CODE GIVEN TO CTR OVER THE TELEPHONE BY THE PLT. IT IS NOT EVEN CLR WHETHER HWKR IS A VALID CODE AT ALL. IT APPEARS THAT THE CTR'S COMPUTER OBSERVED RATE OF CLB FOR THE ACT WAS NOT CONSISTENT WITH ITS DATABASE 'AVERAGE' VALUE FOR HWKR AND, THEREFORE, THE COMPUTER DETERMINED THAT THE ACFT'S MODE C ALT MIGHT ALSO BE IN ERROR. AS A RESULT OF THE COMPUTER'S CONCLUSION, IT DISPLAYED MULTIPLE 'X' ON THE CTLR'S SCREEN IN LIEU OF THE MODE C RPTED ALT OF FL250. THIS MAY ACCOUNT FOR WHY THE PLT WAS ASKED ABOUT THE CONDITION OF THE ACFT'S XPONDER. A DIRECT CONSEQUENCE OF THE NON SPECIFIC ALT ON THE SCREEN WAS THAT THE ZOA CTLR DID NOT REALIZE THAT THE HUNTER HAD PASSED THROUGH ITS ASSIGNED ALT AND, HENCE, DID NOT ATTEMPT TO CONTACT THE PLT AND ALERT HIM OF HIS TRANSGRESSION. DURING THIS SAME TELEPHONE CALL, IT WAS ALSO POINTED OUT THAT ALTHOUGH ZLA HAD NOTED THE ACFT AT A HIGHER ALT THAN ASSIGNED, IT APPARENTLY DID NOT NOTIFY ZOA OF ITS OBSERVATION. AND BY THE TIME THE ACFT WAS HANDED OVER TO ZLA, THE PLT WAS ALREADY REQUESTING TO DSND TO A LOWER ALT FOR THE PURPOSE OF CANCELING IFR. HE WAS CLRED TO DO SO AND CONTINUED ON TO VNY AS A VFR FLT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.