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Attributes | |
ACN | 450061 |
Time | |
Date | 199909 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : stl.airport |
State Reference | MO |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | ATR 72 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 450061 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 4200 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 444250 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe incursion : runway non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were returning to gate due to a mechanical problem and were holding short to cross active runway. As first officer/PNF, I had been on #2 communication to operations and maintenance regarding our situation and I had not been listening for a crossing clearance. Ground control thought we appeared to be over the hold short line and cited their perspective in clearing us to cross. Our company has a policy against running checklists holding short of a runway and I now see benefit of both crew members listening for such critical clrncs in terms of safety and peace of mind. I 'see the light' about being 'in the dark.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF AN ATR72 BELIEVED HE HEARD TWR CTLR CLR HIM TO CROSS THE ACTIVE RWY WHILE RETURNING TO THE GATE AND THEN STOPPED PAST THE HOLD SHORT LINE WHEN HE REALIZED THE CLRNC WAS NOT FOR HIM.
Narrative: WE WERE RETURNING TO GATE DUE TO A MECHANICAL PROB AND WERE HOLDING SHORT TO CROSS ACTIVE RWY. AS FO/PNF, I HAD BEEN ON #2 COM TO OPS AND MAINT REGARDING OUR SIT AND I HAD NOT BEEN LISTENING FOR A XING CLRNC. GND CTL THOUGHT WE APPEARED TO BE OVER THE HOLD SHORT LINE AND CITED THEIR PERSPECTIVE IN CLRING US TO CROSS. OUR COMPANY HAS A POLICY AGAINST RUNNING CHKLISTS HOLDING SHORT OF A RWY AND I NOW SEE BENEFIT OF BOTH CREW MEMBERS LISTENING FOR SUCH CRITICAL CLRNCS IN TERMS OF SAFETY AND PEACE OF MIND. I 'SEE THE LIGHT' ABOUT BEING 'IN THE DARK.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.