A CL65 flight crew responds to a GPWS at 3000 ft while making an approach to abe, PA. Aircraft was IMC at dusk. System error.

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Attributes
ACN	381480
Time
Date	199709
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : abe
State Reference	PA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3800
Environment
Flight Conditions	IMC
Light	Dusk
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : abe
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Challenger CL604
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	cruise other descent : approach
Route In Use	approach : straight in arrival other enroute other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10400 flight time type : 2000
ASRS Report	381480
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance other anomaly other
Independent Detector	aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified
Resolutory Action	flight crew : took evasive action flight crew : exited adverse environment
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Operational Error other
Situations
ATC Facility	procedure or policy : unspecified

Narrative:

Cleared for approach at 3000 ft MSL, level flight, 200 KIAS. Suddenly GPWS 'terrain pull up.' climbed to 3800 ft MSL before GPWS silenced. Reported to approach control, and controller said, 'oh, we get that all the time out there.' the approach chart MSA shows 3500 ft MSL. Perhaps abe needs to review their MVA if they get that 'all the time.' no traffic conflict. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter was in a CL65RJ. The first officer was new to the equipment and was PF. There was some hesitation on his part during the GPWS alert so the captain took over and assisted the first officer in the execution of the climb procedure. The company ATC specialist contacted the facility chief and was told that the approach controller was receiving remedial training as the controller was vectoring all aircraft at 3000 ft when the actual MVA was 3500 ft. It was no wonder that the controller had said 'we get that all the time out there.' reporter feels that the issue is now closed.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A CL65 FLC RESPONDS TO A GPWS AT 3000 FT WHILE MAKING AN APCH TO ABE, PA. ACFT WAS IMC AT DUSK. SYS ERROR.

Narrative: CLRED FOR APCH AT 3000 FT MSL, LEVEL FLT, 200 KIAS. SUDDENLY GPWS 'TERRAIN PULL UP.' CLBED TO 3800 FT MSL BEFORE GPWS SILENCED. RPTED TO APCH CTL, AND CTLR SAID, 'OH, WE GET THAT ALL THE TIME OUT THERE.' THE APCH CHART MSA SHOWS 3500 FT MSL. PERHAPS ABE NEEDS TO REVIEW THEIR MVA IF THEY GET THAT 'ALL THE TIME.' NO TFC CONFLICT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR WAS IN A CL65RJ. THE FO WAS NEW TO THE EQUIP AND WAS PF. THERE WAS SOME HESITATION ON HIS PART DURING THE GPWS ALERT SO THE CAPT TOOK OVER AND ASSISTED THE FO IN THE EXECUTION OF THE CLB PROC. THE COMPANY ATC SPECIALIST CONTACTED THE FACILITY CHIEF AND WAS TOLD THAT THE APCH CTLR WAS RECEIVING REMEDIAL TRAINING AS THE CTLR WAS VECTORING ALL ACFT AT 3000 FT WHEN THE ACTUAL MVA WAS 3500 FT. IT WAS NO WONDER THAT THE CTLR HAD SAID 'WE GET THAT ALL THE TIME OUT THERE.' RPTR FEELS THAT THE ISSUE IS NOW CLOSED.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.