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Mci TRACON controller claims they are experiencing automated handoff problems with ZKC. The mci automation specialist is aware of the problem, but it still exists.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 381687 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199710 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : mci |
| State Reference | MO |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zkc tracon : mci |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Baron 58/58TC |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Bonanza 36 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller military : 4 controller radar : 14 |
| ASRS Report | 381687 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Navigational Facility |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
| Situations | |
| Navigational Aid | Unspecified |
Narrative:
These are separate sits. #1: BE58 departs stj and automates to ZKC. Mci xfers to ZKC. ZKC advises they didn't get handoff. #2: overflt indicates T08 in scratch pad (T08 means topek gate at 80). The aircraft really was landing foe. Should have been descending to 60 per LOA. Both of these sits continue to happen due to automation problems. Automation specialist has been advised with no results. Only way to solve at this point is excessive coordination which only hampers our abilities to run a safe and orderly flow.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MCI TRACON CTLR CLAIMS THEY ARE EXPERIENCING AUTOMATED HDOF PROBS WITH ZKC. THE MCI AUTOMATION SPECIALIST IS AWARE OF THE PROB, BUT IT STILL EXISTS.
Narrative: THESE ARE SEPARATE SITS. #1: BE58 DEPARTS STJ AND AUTOMATES TO ZKC. MCI XFERS TO ZKC. ZKC ADVISES THEY DIDN'T GET HDOF. #2: OVERFLT INDICATES T08 IN SCRATCH PAD (T08 MEANS TOPEK GATE AT 80). THE ACFT REALLY WAS LNDG FOE. SHOULD HAVE BEEN DSNDING TO 60 PER LOA. BOTH OF THESE SITS CONTINUE TO HAPPEN DUE TO AUTOMATION PROBS. AUTOMATION SPECIALIST HAS BEEN ADVISED WITH NO RESULTS. ONLY WAY TO SOLVE AT THIS POINT IS EXCESSIVE COORD WHICH ONLY HAMPERS OUR ABILITIES TO RUN A SAFE AND ORDERLY FLOW.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.