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Attributes | |
ACN | 382652 |
Time | |
Date | 199710 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bjc |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 1000 agl bound upper : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | other other : other pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 103 flight time total : 6800 flight time type : 1300 |
ASRS Report | 382652 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 25 flight time total : 47 flight time type : 47 |
ASRS Report | 382857 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I took off from bjc around XX00 for a local training flight with a student pilot. She asked if we could fly over to long's peak, a few mi away, to look around. Two of her friends had gone on a 1 day climbing trip to long's peak to practice ice climbing and had been missing for 3 days. We flew around the peak from timberline on up and saw no one until we got up to the summit. We saw 2 people on top and made 3 passes to ascertain their condition, being careful to remain 800-1000 ft above them or at least 2000 ft lateral distance from them. On the 3RD pass we observed there were actually 3 people, all standing and moving around so we flew back home. When we first saw them one of them waved both arms at us as if to get our attention so we were afraid they might be her missing friends and had some kind of a problem. We later discovered that long's peak is in the rocky mountain national park and we had not maintained 2000 ft of requested altitude above the terrain. Also I failed to call flight service and find out if there was a temporary restr area because of the lost climbers, but as far as I've found out there wasn't. Unknown to my student, or the media, 1 man had made it down from the summit and a rescue team had retrieved the other one before we got there. They're both in the hospital with frostbite. The people we saw at the summit were probably part of the rescue team.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DURING A DUAL LCL TRAINING FLT, THE FLT INSTRUCTOR PERMITTED THE STUDENT PLT OF A C172 TO FLY OVER A MOUNTAIN PEAK, LOCATED IN A NATIONAL PARK SVC AREA, TO LOOK FOR LOST HIKING FRIENDS. THE ACFT WAS ALLOWED TO CIRCLE AT A LOWER ALT THAN PERMITTED BY THE FOREST SVCS RESTRS.
Narrative: I TOOK OFF FROM BJC AROUND XX00 FOR A LCL TRAINING FLT WITH A STUDENT PLT. SHE ASKED IF WE COULD FLY OVER TO LONG'S PEAK, A FEW MI AWAY, TO LOOK AROUND. TWO OF HER FRIENDS HAD GONE ON A 1 DAY CLBING TRIP TO LONG'S PEAK TO PRACTICE ICE CLBING AND HAD BEEN MISSING FOR 3 DAYS. WE FLEW AROUND THE PEAK FROM TIMBERLINE ON UP AND SAW NO ONE UNTIL WE GOT UP TO THE SUMMIT. WE SAW 2 PEOPLE ON TOP AND MADE 3 PASSES TO ASCERTAIN THEIR CONDITION, BEING CAREFUL TO REMAIN 800-1000 FT ABOVE THEM OR AT LEAST 2000 FT LATERAL DISTANCE FROM THEM. ON THE 3RD PASS WE OBSERVED THERE WERE ACTUALLY 3 PEOPLE, ALL STANDING AND MOVING AROUND SO WE FLEW BACK HOME. WHEN WE FIRST SAW THEM ONE OF THEM WAVED BOTH ARMS AT US AS IF TO GET OUR ATTN SO WE WERE AFRAID THEY MIGHT BE HER MISSING FRIENDS AND HAD SOME KIND OF A PROB. WE LATER DISCOVERED THAT LONG'S PEAK IS IN THE ROCKY MOUNTAIN NATIONAL PARK AND WE HAD NOT MAINTAINED 2000 FT OF REQUESTED ALT ABOVE THE TERRAIN. ALSO I FAILED TO CALL FLT SVC AND FIND OUT IF THERE WAS A TEMPORARY RESTR AREA BECAUSE OF THE LOST CLIMBERS, BUT AS FAR AS I'VE FOUND OUT THERE WASN'T. UNKNOWN TO MY STUDENT, OR THE MEDIA, 1 MAN HAD MADE IT DOWN FROM THE SUMMIT AND A RESCUE TEAM HAD RETRIEVED THE OTHER ONE BEFORE WE GOT THERE. THEY'RE BOTH IN THE HOSPITAL WITH FROSTBITE. THE PEOPLE WE SAW AT THE SUMMIT WERE PROBABLY PART OF THE RESCUE TEAM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.