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Attributes | |
ACN | 386532 |
Time | |
Date | 199711 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : cvc |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 6200 msl bound upper : 8000 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : nrt |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-11 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 386532 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 5999 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Holding inbound to tokyo's narita airport at aries intersection at 8000 ft. Inbound course is 258 degrees left turns, 7 mi leg. After turning inbound we were given a clearance to continue our turn to heading 160 degrees and descend to 6000 ft. A flight below us had a previous clearance to depart aries on a heading of 160 degrees and was at 6000 ft. As we rolled out on the 160 degree heading and descended below 6500 ft, we received a TCASII TA alert and realized that the other flight was now closely in trail and tracking parallel to us. We leveled off at 6200 ft with a -200 indicated on the TA alert. The other flight was less than 1 mi to our 4-5 O'clock position. ATC was advised and the other flight was directed to turn right to a heading west of our track. The copilot could see it over his shoulder and the flight crew acknowledged seeing us. Apparently ATC misjudged the result of the 2 different clrncs given each flight. My concern is why we never got a TCASII RA alert even though we were within 200 ft altitude and less than 1 mi proximity to the other aircraft. Our TCASII had tested ok and we were getting altitude information from the other aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTED LOSS OF SEPARATION BTWN RPTR'S MD11 DSNDING TO 6000 FT AND ANOTHER ACR AT 6000 FT.
Narrative: HOLDING INBOUND TO TOKYO'S NARITA ARPT AT ARIES INTXN AT 8000 FT. INBOUND COURSE IS 258 DEGS L TURNS, 7 MI LEG. AFTER TURNING INBOUND WE WERE GIVEN A CLRNC TO CONTINUE OUR TURN TO HDG 160 DEGS AND DSND TO 6000 FT. A FLT BELOW US HAD A PREVIOUS CLRNC TO DEPART ARIES ON A HDG OF 160 DEGS AND WAS AT 6000 FT. AS WE ROLLED OUT ON THE 160 DEG HDG AND DSNDED BELOW 6500 FT, WE RECEIVED A TCASII TA ALERT AND REALIZED THAT THE OTHER FLT WAS NOW CLOSELY IN TRAIL AND TRACKING PARALLEL TO US. WE LEVELED OFF AT 6200 FT WITH A -200 INDICATED ON THE TA ALERT. THE OTHER FLT WAS LESS THAN 1 MI TO OUR 4-5 O'CLOCK POS. ATC WAS ADVISED AND THE OTHER FLT WAS DIRECTED TO TURN R TO A HDG W OF OUR TRACK. THE COPLT COULD SEE IT OVER HIS SHOULDER AND THE FLC ACKNOWLEDGED SEEING US. APPARENTLY ATC MISJUDGED THE RESULT OF THE 2 DIFFERENT CLRNCS GIVEN EACH FLT. MY CONCERN IS WHY WE NEVER GOT A TCASII RA ALERT EVEN THOUGH WE WERE WITHIN 200 FT ALT AND LESS THAN 1 MI PROX TO THE OTHER ACFT. OUR TCASII HAD TESTED OK AND WE WERE GETTING ALT INFO FROM THE OTHER ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.