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Attributes | |
ACN | 387810 |
Time | |
Date | 199712 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : den |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 9000 msl bound upper : 9000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 350 |
ASRS Report | 387810 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter other other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
While being vectored on a left base for runway 16, we were told that we would be following traffic at our 12 - 1 O'clock and to report him in sight. I said 'we're looking, what kind of aircraft?' he said 'a B737 at 12 O'clock, 3 mi.' it was hazy and getting dark and I said 'he's blending into the lights on the ground.' ATC asked 'do you have the field?' I said 'yes.' he said 'cleared for the visual to runway 16, maintain 170 KTS to leets.' we slowed to 150 KTS because we were only 2 1/2 mi in trail. When we were on final, the B737 was just exiting the runway. We encountered his wake on final and in the landing. This practice of vectoring aircraft together with insufficient separation is becoming common practice at den.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTR CLAIMS INADEQUATE SEPARATION BEHIND B737 WHILE ON VISUAL APCH. RPTR HAD ARPT IN SIGHT.
Narrative: WHILE BEING VECTORED ON A L BASE FOR RWY 16, WE WERE TOLD THAT WE WOULD BE FOLLOWING TFC AT OUR 12 - 1 O'CLOCK AND TO RPT HIM IN SIGHT. I SAID 'WE'RE LOOKING, WHAT KIND OF ACFT?' HE SAID 'A B737 AT 12 O'CLOCK, 3 MI.' IT WAS HAZY AND GETTING DARK AND I SAID 'HE'S BLENDING INTO THE LIGHTS ON THE GND.' ATC ASKED 'DO YOU HAVE THE FIELD?' I SAID 'YES.' HE SAID 'CLRED FOR THE VISUAL TO RWY 16, MAINTAIN 170 KTS TO LEETS.' WE SLOWED TO 150 KTS BECAUSE WE WERE ONLY 2 1/2 MI IN TRAIL. WHEN WE WERE ON FINAL, THE B737 WAS JUST EXITING THE RWY. WE ENCOUNTERED HIS WAKE ON FINAL AND IN THE LNDG. THIS PRACTICE OF VECTORING ACFT TOGETHER WITH INSUFFICIENT SEPARATION IS BECOMING COMMON PRACTICE AT DEN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.