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Inbound to ewr airport, air carrier flight crew was unable to make a timely FMS input for an intersection altitude crossing restr on a STAR, causing the flight crew to take back manual control of aircraft. Flight crew advised ATC that they were unable to meet restr. Though ATC expressed displeasure, flight proceeded on course to destination.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 388490 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199712 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : sax airport : ewr |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 10000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zbw |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-300 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival star : star |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 275 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 7000 |
| ASRS Report | 388490 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
En route from buf to ewr, ZBW cleared us direct to crank intersection to intercept shaff 3 arrival, to cross crank intersection at 7000 ft MSL. FMC was programmed and descent begun. At 10500 ft MSL, the aircraft had not begun to slow down to 250 KTS. We took over manually and realized that we would not make crank intersection at 7000 ft MSL. I notified ZBW, he was very mad. I asked for a vector for descent. Nothing else said.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INBOUND TO EWR ARPT, ACR FLC WAS UNABLE TO MAKE A TIMELY FMS INPUT FOR AN INTXN ALT XING RESTR ON A STAR, CAUSING THE FLC TO TAKE BACK MANUAL CTL OF ACFT. FLC ADVISED ATC THAT THEY WERE UNABLE TO MEET RESTR. THOUGH ATC EXPRESSED DISPLEASURE, FLT PROCEEDED ON COURSE TO DEST.
Narrative: ENRTE FROM BUF TO EWR, ZBW CLRED US DIRECT TO CRANK INTXN TO INTERCEPT SHAFF 3 ARR, TO CROSS CRANK INTXN AT 7000 FT MSL. FMC WAS PROGRAMMED AND DSCNT BEGUN. AT 10500 FT MSL, THE ACFT HAD NOT BEGUN TO SLOW DOWN TO 250 KTS. WE TOOK OVER MANUALLY AND REALIZED THAT WE WOULD NOT MAKE CRANK INTXN AT 7000 FT MSL. I NOTIFIED ZBW, HE WAS VERY MAD. I ASKED FOR A VECTOR FOR DSCNT. NOTHING ELSE SAID.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.