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Attributes | |
ACN | 388740 |
Time | |
Date | 199712 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : las |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 8200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : las tower : las |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Beechjet 400 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 50 |
ASRS Report | 388740 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 2020 flight time type : 40 |
ASRS Report | 388743 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Departing las on non-filed oasys 2 departure, I failed to note 7000 ft restr at 7 DME on the las VOR 211 degree radial. I briefed the PF according to my misunderstanding, ie, that we were climbing as cleared to 17000 ft unrestr. I concentrated on directing the PF to make the steepest possible climb gradient to stay above the wake of an MD80 that departed same runway 45 seconds in front of us. The PF did a superb job of following my erroneous directions. As we were vectored to begin a turn northwest and switch to center frequency, I noticed and informed ZLA that we were 'out of 8200 ft for 17000 ft.' at that point, glancing at the SID depiction (government chart), I saw the 7000 ft crossing restr for the first time. Future action: read the whole SID with great care.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CPR CAPT TELLS FO FLYING TO CLB UNRESTR TO 17000 FT ON LAS SID. AFTER CHANGING FROM TRACON TO ARTCC, CAPT SEES MISSED SID XING RESTR AND ADVISES FO OF ERROR.
Narrative: DEPARTING LAS ON NON-FILED OASYS 2 DEP, I FAILED TO NOTE 7000 FT RESTR AT 7 DME ON THE LAS VOR 211 DEG RADIAL. I BRIEFED THE PF ACCORDING TO MY MISUNDERSTANDING, IE, THAT WE WERE CLBING AS CLRED TO 17000 FT UNRESTR. I CONCENTRATED ON DIRECTING THE PF TO MAKE THE STEEPEST POSSIBLE CLB GRADIENT TO STAY ABOVE THE WAKE OF AN MD80 THAT DEPARTED SAME RWY 45 SECONDS IN FRONT OF US. THE PF DID A SUPERB JOB OF FOLLOWING MY ERRONEOUS DIRECTIONS. AS WE WERE VECTORED TO BEGIN A TURN NW AND SWITCH TO CTR FREQ, I NOTICED AND INFORMED ZLA THAT WE WERE 'OUT OF 8200 FT FOR 17000 FT.' AT THAT POINT, GLANCING AT THE SID DEPICTION (GOV CHART), I SAW THE 7000 FT XING RESTR FOR THE FIRST TIME. FUTURE ACTION: READ THE WHOLE SID WITH GREAT CARE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.