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A military DC9 flight crew avoids a climbing maneuvering T34 at their altitude, right in front of them. Aircraft Y assumed to be from a local 'top gun' school.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 394676 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199802 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : dob airport : ncq airport : mge |
| State Reference | GA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 9800 msl bound upper : 9800 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : atl |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Mentor (T-34) |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : military |
| Function | flight crew : captain observation : company check pilot oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : military pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 1000 |
| ASRS Report | 394676 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : military |
| Function | flight crew : first officer instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : military |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 500 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During climb out to conduct high work for annual check ride. Student at controls, noticed T34B appear from beneath our aircraft and directly ahead. Student announced 'traffic' and conducted immediate left climbing turn to avoid collision. Notified ATC of near miss. Contacted ATC upon completion of flight. Supervisor advised us that traffic was in fact a T34B with a 'dog fighting' school. Aircraft was possibly performing acrobatics during near miss. Student did an excellent job of maintaining a VFR scan. Our aircraft are currently being modified to add a GPS/FMS and TCASII. No TCASII was installed in this aircraft. Heads up scan saved our lives! Closest miss I've had in 15+ yrs of flying.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A MIL DC9 FLC AVOIDS A CLBING MANEUVERING T34 AT THEIR ALT, RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM. ACFT Y ASSUMED TO BE FROM A LCL 'TOP GUN' SCHOOL.
Narrative: DURING CLBOUT TO CONDUCT HIGH WORK FOR ANNUAL CHK RIDE. STUDENT AT CTLS, NOTICED T34B APPEAR FROM BENEATH OUR ACFT AND DIRECTLY AHEAD. STUDENT ANNOUNCED 'TFC' AND CONDUCTED IMMEDIATE L CLBING TURN TO AVOID COLLISION. NOTIFIED ATC OF NEAR MISS. CONTACTED ATC UPON COMPLETION OF FLT. SUPVR ADVISED US THAT TFC WAS IN FACT A T34B WITH A 'DOG FIGHTING' SCHOOL. ACFT WAS POSSIBLY PERFORMING ACROBATICS DURING NEAR MISS. STUDENT DID AN EXCELLENT JOB OF MAINTAINING A VFR SCAN. OUR ACFT ARE CURRENTLY BEING MODIFIED TO ADD A GPS/FMS AND TCASII. NO TCASII WAS INSTALLED IN THIS ACFT. HEADS UP SCAN SAVED OUR LIVES! CLOSEST MISS I'VE HAD IN 15+ YRS OF FLYING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.