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Attributes | |
ACN | 395587 |
Time | |
Date | 199803 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pob |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | military facility : pob tracon : fay artcc : zid |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Hercules (C-130) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Hercules (C-130) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : departure |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 3 flight time total : 210 |
ASRS Report | 395587 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : military |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : military |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 8000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
As I took the east radar position briefing, the previous controller told me that aircraft X and aircraft Y were both released off pob. Pob ATCT called and told me that both were airborne and described their position, about 1 1/2 mi apart. I verified that they were both IFR. As soon as I talked to the second aircraft, I established visual separation. They were about 2 mi apart at that time, on the same course. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: called reporter to verify who had initial separation control responsibility. Pob AFB ATCT, via LOA, has initial control responsibility for multiple IFR departures, prior to xfer to fay TRACON.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MIL ATCT LCL CTLR ALLOWED 2 MIL TRAINING FLT ACFT, ON IFR FLT PLANS, TO BECOME AIRBORNE WITHOUT ENSURING RADAR SEPARATION PRIOR TO XFERRING TO FAA TRACON.
Narrative: AS I TOOK THE E RADAR POS BRIEFING, THE PREVIOUS CTLR TOLD ME THAT ACFT X AND ACFT Y WERE BOTH RELEASED OFF POB. POB ATCT CALLED AND TOLD ME THAT BOTH WERE AIRBORNE AND DESCRIBED THEIR POS, ABOUT 1 1/2 MI APART. I VERIFIED THAT THEY WERE BOTH IFR. AS SOON AS I TALKED TO THE SECOND ACFT, I ESTABLISHED VISUAL SEPARATION. THEY WERE ABOUT 2 MI APART AT THAT TIME, ON THE SAME COURSE. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: CALLED RPTR TO VERIFY WHO HAD INITIAL SEPARATION CTL RESPONSIBILITY. POB AFB ATCT, VIA LOA, HAS INITIAL CTL RESPONSIBILITY FOR MULTIPLE IFR DEPS, PRIOR TO XFER TO FAY TRACON.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.