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Attributes | |
ACN | 396520 |
Time | |
Date | 199803 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : iad |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : bmi |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight ground : parked |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 396520 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
Fueler comes up to say a fuel spill has occurred. Gauge never read full and his automatic stop function failed. Gauge on our (full) tank read 9180 pounds, the other gauge read 9650 pounds. Inoperative gauge can be placed on maintenance carry over. This was the last leg (3RD) on the last day of a 4 day trip. The agent told us no flight today had gone out on time. The captain said we would. I said we needed a mechanic. Contract maintenance from another airline can take time and delays. The captain refused to call maintenance saying he wasn't sure the gauge was broken, can an electronic gauge be stuck? I said, 'the fire trucks are called. They're going to write a report, we should too, cya.' captain said no. The captain asked the fueler to stick the tanks (standard procedure in the MEL). The tanks read full. Since this was not a safety of flight issue (it would be mco'ed with a logbook entry), I decided not to push the issue. The captain will retire in 3 yrs and does not have the paperwork attitude of us younger pilots. Suggestion from a friend: ask the captain, what does he gain and how does he help the company by not writing it up? The question remains: when do I act assertively and when do I let it slide? If safety would be compromised, I would definitely speak more assertively.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737 EXPERIENCES A FUEL SPILL WHEN THE REFUELING TRUCK'S AUTO STOP FUNCTION FAILED. REFED TANK WAS FULL YET THE 'GAUGE' (COCKPIT?) READ LESS THAN THE 'OTHER' GAUGE (REFUELING CTL PANEL GAUGE?). CAPT HAD THE TANK 'STUCK' TO DETERMINE THAT THE TANK WAS FULL.
Narrative: FUELER COMES UP TO SAY A FUEL SPILL HAS OCCURRED. GAUGE NEVER READ FULL AND HIS AUTO STOP FUNCTION FAILED. GAUGE ON OUR (FULL) TANK READ 9180 LBS, THE OTHER GAUGE READ 9650 LBS. INOP GAUGE CAN BE PLACED ON MAINT CARRY OVER. THIS WAS THE LAST LEG (3RD) ON THE LAST DAY OF A 4 DAY TRIP. THE AGENT TOLD US NO FLT TODAY HAD GONE OUT ON TIME. THE CAPT SAID WE WOULD. I SAID WE NEEDED A MECH. CONTRACT MAINT FROM ANOTHER AIRLINE CAN TAKE TIME AND DELAYS. THE CAPT REFUSED TO CALL MAINT SAYING HE WASN'T SURE THE GAUGE WAS BROKEN, CAN AN ELECTRONIC GAUGE BE STUCK? I SAID, 'THE FIRE TRUCKS ARE CALLED. THEY'RE GOING TO WRITE A RPT, WE SHOULD TOO, CYA.' CAPT SAID NO. THE CAPT ASKED THE FUELER TO STICK THE TANKS (STANDARD PROC IN THE MEL). THE TANKS READ FULL. SINCE THIS WAS NOT A SAFETY OF FLT ISSUE (IT WOULD BE MCO'ED WITH A LOGBOOK ENTRY), I DECIDED NOT TO PUSH THE ISSUE. THE CAPT WILL RETIRE IN 3 YRS AND DOES NOT HAVE THE PAPERWORK ATTITUDE OF US YOUNGER PLTS. SUGGESTION FROM A FRIEND: ASK THE CAPT, WHAT DOES HE GAIN AND HOW DOES HE HELP THE COMPANY BY NOT WRITING IT UP? THE QUESTION REMAINS: WHEN DO I ACT ASSERTIVELY AND WHEN DO I LET IT SLIDE? IF SAFETY WOULD BE COMPROMISED, I WOULD DEFINITELY SPEAK MORE ASSERTIVELY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.