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Attributes | |
ACN | 397368 |
Time | |
Date | 199803 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : orf |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : orf tower : orf |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Eagle (F-15) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 1201 |
ASRS Report | 397368 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 400 vertical : 50 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
At XA45 on mar/mon/98, both the captain and I noticed TCASII had picked up a fast moving object flying right to left (1 to 9 O'clock position), approximately 2500 ft below us and climbing. By the time we spotted the F15, he was at an altitude of 4000 ft MSL, respectively off our left wing, while we were at cruise (still at 5000 ft MSL). Turning back, immediately the captain noticed another F15 (not on TCASII) approximately 500 ft in front (12:30 O'clock position) and approximately same altitude. The captain took the controls and banked the aircraft right while the F15 banked to his right. No one was harmed, 1 passenger noticed the F15 and commented to the flight attendant. We reported the incident to norfolk approach and continued uneventfully to our destination (orf). I believe this problem could have been avoided if all formation flight aircraft are required to use a transponder and not just the lead aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LTT ACR FLT TOOK EVASIVE ACTION WHEN AN F15 WAS OBSERVED APPROX 500 FT DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF ACFT. TCASII HAD PREVIOUSLY SHOWED RAPIDLY CLBING TFC FROM BENEATH. PIC STATES BETTER PLANNING COULD HAVE RESULTED IF ALL ACFT WERE REQUIRED TO HAVE XPONDERS ON.
Narrative: AT XA45 ON MAR/MON/98, BOTH THE CAPT AND I NOTICED TCASII HAD PICKED UP A FAST MOVING OBJECT FLYING R TO L (1 TO 9 O'CLOCK POS), APPROX 2500 FT BELOW US AND CLBING. BY THE TIME WE SPOTTED THE F15, HE WAS AT AN ALT OF 4000 FT MSL, RESPECTIVELY OFF OUR L WING, WHILE WE WERE AT CRUISE (STILL AT 5000 FT MSL). TURNING BACK, IMMEDIATELY THE CAPT NOTICED ANOTHER F15 (NOT ON TCASII) APPROX 500 FT IN FRONT (12:30 O'CLOCK POS) AND APPROX SAME ALT. THE CAPT TOOK THE CTLS AND BANKED THE ACFT R WHILE THE F15 BANKED TO HIS R. NO ONE WAS HARMED, 1 PAX NOTICED THE F15 AND COMMENTED TO THE FLT ATTENDANT. WE RPTED THE INCIDENT TO NORFOLK APCH AND CONTINUED UNEVENTFULLY TO OUR DEST (ORF). I BELIEVE THIS PROB COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF ALL FORMATION FLT ACFT ARE REQUIRED TO USE A XPONDER AND NOT JUST THE LEAD ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.