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An SF340 has a potential conflict with a BE76 on takeoff on crossing runway. The duchess was not willing to wait for takeoff behind the SF340 so used a crossing runway. No self announcement was made by the BE76 pilot.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 398867 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199804 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : stc |
| State Reference | MN |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | SF 340A |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : holding |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Duchess 76 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 700 |
| ASRS Report | 398867 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground critical non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 2000 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Waiting for IFR clearance to msp. First officer was monitoring both CTAF and clearance (FSS). Captain monitoring CTAF. Another aircraft (beechjet) just canceled IFR inbound. Captain had him in sight on downwind. First officer received clearance to depart. Captain made announcement on CTAF we were departing runway 13 straight out departure and thanked beechjet for canceling. First officer completed before takeoff check and runway items check. The captain (me) added takeoff power. Around 50 KTS we sighted the duchess rotating at 12 O'clock on the cross runway, approximately 2000 ft ahead. We continued a normal takeoff. After completion of after takeoff check we contacted the duchess to see if he was on frequency. He was and I asked if he made a takeoff announcement. He said no. Unfortunately, this was a perfectly legal move. A stupid one, but legal. I believe he chose the other runway so he would not have to wait in line behind us as we waited approximately 3 mins for our IFR clearance. This situation has cost lives in the past, ie, beech 1900D in quincy. Do you think the flying public would like to hear about these sits?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN SF340 HAS A POTENTIAL CONFLICT WITH A BE76 ON TKOF ON XING RWY. THE DUCHESS WAS NOT WILLING TO WAIT FOR TKOF BEHIND THE SF340 SO USED A XING RWY. NO SELF ANNOUNCEMENT WAS MADE BY THE BE76 PLT.
Narrative: WAITING FOR IFR CLRNC TO MSP. FO WAS MONITORING BOTH CTAF AND CLRNC (FSS). CAPT MONITORING CTAF. ANOTHER ACFT (BEECHJET) JUST CANCELED IFR INBOUND. CAPT HAD HIM IN SIGHT ON DOWNWIND. FO RECEIVED CLRNC TO DEPART. CAPT MADE ANNOUNCEMENT ON CTAF WE WERE DEPARTING RWY 13 STRAIGHT OUT DEP AND THANKED BEECHJET FOR CANCELING. FO COMPLETED BEFORE TKOF CHK AND RWY ITEMS CHK. THE CAPT (ME) ADDED TKOF PWR. AROUND 50 KTS WE SIGHTED THE DUCHESS ROTATING AT 12 O'CLOCK ON THE CROSS RWY, APPROX 2000 FT AHEAD. WE CONTINUED A NORMAL TKOF. AFTER COMPLETION OF AFTER TKOF CHK WE CONTACTED THE DUCHESS TO SEE IF HE WAS ON FREQ. HE WAS AND I ASKED IF HE MADE A TKOF ANNOUNCEMENT. HE SAID NO. UNFORTUNATELY, THIS WAS A PERFECTLY LEGAL MOVE. A STUPID ONE, BUT LEGAL. I BELIEVE HE CHOSE THE OTHER RWY SO HE WOULD NOT HAVE TO WAIT IN LINE BEHIND US AS WE WAITED APPROX 3 MINS FOR OUR IFR CLRNC. THIS SIT HAS COST LIVES IN THE PAST, IE, BEECH 1900D IN QUINCY. DO YOU THINK THE FLYING PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT THESE SITS?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.