Controller at sct not able to handoff descending B747 to adjacent sector and sees a ZLA DC10 traffic in holding pattern nearby. He makes an attempt to avoid the traffic and claims the traffic passed too close.

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Attributes
ACN	400161
Time
Date	199804
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : fim
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 15000 msl bound upper : 15000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : lax
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B747 Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	cruise other descent other other
Route In Use	arrival other arrival star : star enroute : on vectors enroute airway : lax enroute airway : zla
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	DC-10 Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	Other
Flight Phase	other
Route In Use	arrival other arrival star : star
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : approach
Qualification	controller : radar
Experience	controller radar : 22
ASRS Report	400161
Person 2
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : radar
Qualification	controller : radar
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation
Independent Detector	atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 12000 vertical : 400
Supplementary
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other
Situations
ATC Facility	procedure or policy : unspecified
Publication	Unspecified

Narrative:

I was working ar-3 in the la arrival area at sct. The CI3 (supervisor) informed me that ar-2, the sector that I was feeding, was no longer taking any aircraft from me (reasons unknown). I had air carrier X (B747) on the sadde STAR descending to 12000 ft. Sector 14 at ZLA was in holding with an air carrier Y DC10 at vtu VOR at 15000 ft. I saw that the DC10 was northbound from vtu and I was south of fim at 15000 ft. I turned air carrier X left immediately and climbed him to 16000 ft. They still passed too close. I reported this to my supervisor who said, 'I don't see the problem with it.' there was complete chaos in the sectors that night because there are no position descriptions defining controller duties for AR1, AR2, AR3, AR4, CI3, and CI2.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CTLR AT SCT NOT ABLE TO HDOF DSNDING B747 TO ADJACENT SECTOR AND SEES A ZLA DC10 TFC IN HOLDING PATTERN NEARBY. HE MAKES AN ATTEMPT TO AVOID THE TFC AND CLAIMS THE TFC PASSED TOO CLOSE.

Narrative: I WAS WORKING AR-3 IN THE LA ARR AREA AT SCT. THE CI3 (SUPVR) INFORMED ME THAT AR-2, THE SECTOR THAT I WAS FEEDING, WAS NO LONGER TAKING ANY ACFT FROM ME (REASONS UNKNOWN). I HAD ACR X (B747) ON THE SADDE STAR DSNDING TO 12000 FT. SECTOR 14 AT ZLA WAS IN HOLDING WITH AN ACR Y DC10 AT VTU VOR AT 15000 FT. I SAW THAT THE DC10 WAS NBOUND FROM VTU AND I WAS S OF FIM AT 15000 FT. I TURNED ACR X L IMMEDIATELY AND CLBED HIM TO 16000 FT. THEY STILL PASSED TOO CLOSE. I RPTED THIS TO MY SUPVR WHO SAID, 'I DON'T SEE THE PROB WITH IT.' THERE WAS COMPLETE CHAOS IN THE SECTORS THAT NIGHT BECAUSE THERE ARE NO POS DESCRIPTIONS DEFINING CTLR DUTIES FOR AR1, AR2, AR3, AR4, CI3, AND CI2.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.