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EMB120RT aircraft taxiing after landing was cleared across an active runway when a preceding ATR72 stopped short of taxiway, not allowing room for reporter aircraft to completely clear the runway. When reporter heard tower clear an aircraft for takeoff he alerted them that their aircraft was not clear. Tower responded that they were clear enough.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 400264 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199804 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dfw |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Marginal |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Brasilia EMB-120 All Series |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 3400 flight time type : 800 |
| ASRS Report | 400264 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
After landing runway 31R at dfw, flight was cleared to use taxiway Y and hold short of runway 35C. Flight was then cleared across runway 35C, short of runway 35L. Flight was later cleared across runway 35L behind an ATR72. After the ATR cleared runway 35L, it stopped short of taxiway left leaving no room for our EMB120 to get across the hold short line. Tower then cleared a B727 for takeoff on runway 35L. We immediately advised tower that we were not clear. Tower replied 'I show you clear and that's all I need.' the ATR eventually pulled forward and we cleared the runway safety zone. Local controller continued to clear aircraft for takeoff during this time. If a departing aircraft had aborted, a collision would have resulted.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: EMB120RT ACFT TAXIING AFTER LNDG WAS CLRED ACROSS AN ACTIVE RWY WHEN A PRECEDING ATR72 STOPPED SHORT OF TXWY, NOT ALLOWING ROOM FOR RPTR ACFT TO COMPLETELY CLR THE RWY. WHEN RPTR HEARD TWR CLR AN ACFT FOR TKOF HE ALERTED THEM THAT THEIR ACFT WAS NOT CLR. TWR RESPONDED THAT THEY WERE CLR ENOUGH.
Narrative: AFTER LNDG RWY 31R AT DFW, FLT WAS CLRED TO USE TXWY Y AND HOLD SHORT OF RWY 35C. FLT WAS THEN CLRED ACROSS RWY 35C, SHORT OF RWY 35L. FLT WAS LATER CLRED ACROSS RWY 35L BEHIND AN ATR72. AFTER THE ATR CLRED RWY 35L, IT STOPPED SHORT OF TXWY L LEAVING NO ROOM FOR OUR EMB120 TO GET ACROSS THE HOLD SHORT LINE. TWR THEN CLRED A B727 FOR TKOF ON RWY 35L. WE IMMEDIATELY ADVISED TWR THAT WE WERE NOT CLR. TWR REPLIED 'I SHOW YOU CLR AND THAT'S ALL I NEED.' THE ATR EVENTUALLY PULLED FORWARD AND WE CLRED THE RWY SAFETY ZONE. LCL CTLR CONTINUED TO CLR ACFT FOR TKOF DURING THIS TIME. IF A DEPARTING ACFT HAD ABORTED, A COLLISION WOULD HAVE RESULTED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.