A PA28 makes an instrument approach into lbe for runway 28 while a departing commuter at the other end of runway is waiting for takeoff clearance. The PA28 fails to call leaving the approach fix and the tower chastises the PA28 for delaying the takeoff of the commuter.

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Attributes
ACN	401690
Time
Date	199805
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : lbe
State Reference	PA
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 2000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : lbe tower : phl
Operator	general aviation : instructional
Make Model Name	PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Commercial Fixed Wing
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	climbout : takeoff ground other : taxi
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : instructor
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 2020 flight time type : 800
ASRS Report	401690
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : trainee
Qualification	pilot : student
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : clearance other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

Rr is a new instrument pilot who was not totally comfortable with flight in clouds. We (student and myself) were on an IFR flight plan from 5g8 to lbe to practice ILS approachs. Center handed us off to tower. We radioed tower and they gave us a traffic warning of an arrow departing our direction. We were on ILS runway 28 traffic was departing runway 10. We were instructed to turn on our landing light (which upon landing we found, did not work) so traffic could avoid us. We were not given, nor did we hear 'report final approach fix.' so we continued and I reported the OM as a courtesy call to give our position. We were told to get off the ILS for a commuter airplane was awaiting our arrival. Upon reaching the ramp we were instructed to call the tower. We were informed by xx in the tower that we missed a mandatory reporting point and we held up the commuter and fare paying customers were inconvenienced. I apologized for this situation.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A PA28 MAKES AN INST APCH INTO LBE FOR RWY 28 WHILE A DEPARTING COMMUTER AT THE OTHER END OF RWY IS WAITING FOR TKOF CLRNC. THE PA28 FAILS TO CALL LEAVING THE APCH FIX AND THE TWR CHASTISES THE PA28 FOR DELAYING THE TKOF OF THE COMMUTER.

Narrative: RR IS A NEW INST PLT WHO WAS NOT TOTALLY COMFORTABLE WITH FLT IN CLOUDS. WE (STUDENT AND MYSELF) WERE ON AN IFR FLT PLAN FROM 5G8 TO LBE TO PRACTICE ILS APCHS. CTR HANDED US OFF TO TWR. WE RADIOED TWR AND THEY GAVE US A TFC WARNING OF AN ARROW DEPARTING OUR DIRECTION. WE WERE ON ILS RWY 28 TFC WAS DEPARTING RWY 10. WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO TURN ON OUR LNDG LIGHT (WHICH UPON LNDG WE FOUND, DID NOT WORK) SO TFC COULD AVOID US. WE WERE NOT GIVEN, NOR DID WE HEAR 'RPT FINAL APCH FIX.' SO WE CONTINUED AND I RPTED THE OM AS A COURTESY CALL TO GIVE OUR POS. WE WERE TOLD TO GET OFF THE ILS FOR A COMMUTER AIRPLANE WAS AWAITING OUR ARR. UPON REACHING THE RAMP WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO CALL THE TWR. WE WERE INFORMED BY XX IN THE TWR THAT WE MISSED A MANDATORY RPTING POINT AND WE HELD UP THE COMMUTER AND FARE PAYING CUSTOMERS WERE INCONVENIENCED. I APOLOGIZED FOR THIS SIT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.