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Attributes | |
ACN | 403360 |
Time | |
Date | 199805 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : eri |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10600 msl bound upper : 12000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : mie |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 25 flight time total : 650 flight time type : 125 |
ASRS Report | 403360 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : far non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While talking to ZOB at 12000 ft, I requested lower. Controller asked how much lower. I responded 6000 ft. He acknowledged the request with I believe 'roger.' I took that to mean 6000 ft was approved. At 10600 ft in my descent, the controller asked what my altitude was. I responded '10600 ft descending to 6000 ft.' he said I was not cleared to 6000 ft and remain at 11000 ft. I climbed to 11000 ft and remained there until after handoff to erie approach.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT DEVIATED FROM IFR CLRNC WHEN HE DEPARTED FROM ASSIGNED ALT IN ZOB AIRSPACE.
Narrative: WHILE TALKING TO ZOB AT 12000 FT, I REQUESTED LOWER. CTLR ASKED HOW MUCH LOWER. I RESPONDED 6000 FT. HE ACKNOWLEDGED THE REQUEST WITH I BELIEVE 'ROGER.' I TOOK THAT TO MEAN 6000 FT WAS APPROVED. AT 10600 FT IN MY DSCNT, THE CTLR ASKED WHAT MY ALT WAS. I RESPONDED '10600 FT DSNDING TO 6000 FT.' HE SAID I WAS NOT CLRED TO 6000 FT AND REMAIN AT 11000 FT. I CLBED TO 11000 FT AND REMAINED THERE UNTIL AFTER HDOF TO ERIE APCH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.