<< >> NASA ASRS Report 403818, May 1998

Reporter alleges the approach controller did not coordination with the local controller that reporter was unable to accept lahso operations.

Attributes
ACN	403818
Time
Date	199805
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : ord
State Reference	IL
Altitude	msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 1500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : ord tower : ord
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Route In Use	arrival other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 2000
ASRS Report	403818
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

ATIS landing runway 4R and runway 9R with lahso. We advised approach that we were unable to lahso. We were then vectored for landing on runway 9R. Upon calling tower at deana, we were told that we were cleared to land to hold short of taxiway south. We advised tower that we were unable. This is another situation where approach did not communicate our request to tower. It seems that when you arrive at ord these days, you have to think 'ok, what will they try to do to me today?'

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: RPTR ALLEGES THE APCH CTLR DID NOT COORD WITH THE LCL CTLR THAT RPTR WAS UNABLE TO ACCEPT LAHSO OPS.

Narrative: ATIS LNDG RWY 4R AND RWY 9R WITH LAHSO. WE ADVISED APCH THAT WE WERE UNABLE TO LAHSO. WE WERE THEN VECTORED FOR LNDG ON RWY 9R. UPON CALLING TWR AT DEANA, WE WERE TOLD THAT WE WERE CLRED TO LAND TO HOLD SHORT OF TXWY S. WE ADVISED TWR THAT WE WERE UNABLE. THIS IS ANOTHER SIT WHERE APCH DID NOT COMMUNICATE OUR REQUEST TO TWR. IT SEEMS THAT WHEN YOU ARRIVE AT ORD THESE DAYS, YOU HAVE TO THINK 'OK, WHAT WILL THEY TRY TO DO TO ME TODAY?'

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.