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Attributes | |
ACN | 405791 |
Time | |
Date | 199806 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dca |
State Reference | DC |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dca |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 405791 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Flying as first officer in right seat, captain in left seat, observer in jump seat (jump seating home). Captain flying aircraft, myself on the radios. While en route to dca from ewr, was cleared bdl direct to dca. Was descended to 5000 ft MSL inbound to dca. ATIS had given mt vernon visual as approach in use and approach plate was out in anticipation. Captain (flying) had mentioned the prohibited airspace and a recent article about a cpr pilot violating it. Jump seating captain was pointing out dc area landmarks of P56 area, as I had never approached dca from the northeast. I had a visual on washington monument, white house, but had not yet seen the capitol building. At this time we were 5000 ft on about a 230 degree heading. Jump seating captain made a comment that approach controller should be turning us soon to avoid P56 and then followed up that we should not go any closer as we were about 3 DME. I called approach to ask if they 'had a turn for us.' no response. I made another call, no response. Captain began a turn to the south. I switched radios, made another call, 'do you have a turn for us?' ATC responded, 'where have you been? I've been trying to reach you, turn left heading 210 degrees.' I replied we were already there (captain had turned). Remainder of approach was uneventful. Upon landing, ground control told us to call ATC. Upon further review, it is evident the mt vernon visual does not dictate a turn point to avoid the P56 area. A lost communication aircraft, which we were, would fly direct to dca and overfly the eastern edge of P56. There is no turn specified in the mt vernon visual approach.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DC9 ACFT CLRED DIRECT TO DCA ENTERED P56 INADVERTENTLY. APPARENT RPTR RADIO PROB PREVENTED ATC FROM VECTORING ACFT AROUND THE PROHIBITED AREA.
Narrative: FLYING AS FO IN R SEAT, CAPT IN L SEAT, OBSERVER IN JUMP SEAT (JUMP SEATING HOME). CAPT FLYING ACFT, MYSELF ON THE RADIOS. WHILE ENRTE TO DCA FROM EWR, WAS CLRED BDL DIRECT TO DCA. WAS DSNDED TO 5000 FT MSL INBOUND TO DCA. ATIS HAD GIVEN MT VERNON VISUAL AS APCH IN USE AND APCH PLATE WAS OUT IN ANTICIPATION. CAPT (FLYING) HAD MENTIONED THE PROHIBITED AIRSPACE AND A RECENT ARTICLE ABOUT A CPR PLT VIOLATING IT. JUMP SEATING CAPT WAS POINTING OUT DC AREA LANDMARKS OF P56 AREA, AS I HAD NEVER APCHED DCA FROM THE NE. I HAD A VISUAL ON WASHINGTON MONUMENT, WHITE HOUSE, BUT HAD NOT YET SEEN THE CAPITOL BUILDING. AT THIS TIME WE WERE 5000 FT ON ABOUT A 230 DEG HDG. JUMP SEATING CAPT MADE A COMMENT THAT APCH CTLR SHOULD BE TURNING US SOON TO AVOID P56 AND THEN FOLLOWED UP THAT WE SHOULD NOT GO ANY CLOSER AS WE WERE ABOUT 3 DME. I CALLED APCH TO ASK IF THEY 'HAD A TURN FOR US.' NO RESPONSE. I MADE ANOTHER CALL, NO RESPONSE. CAPT BEGAN A TURN TO THE S. I SWITCHED RADIOS, MADE ANOTHER CALL, 'DO YOU HAVE A TURN FOR US?' ATC RESPONDED, 'WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN? I'VE BEEN TRYING TO REACH YOU, TURN L HDG 210 DEGS.' I REPLIED WE WERE ALREADY THERE (CAPT HAD TURNED). REMAINDER OF APCH WAS UNEVENTFUL. UPON LNDG, GND CTL TOLD US TO CALL ATC. UPON FURTHER REVIEW, IT IS EVIDENT THE MT VERNON VISUAL DOES NOT DICTATE A TURN POINT TO AVOID THE P56 AREA. A LOST COM ACFT, WHICH WE WERE, WOULD FLY DIRECT TO DCA AND OVERFLY THE EASTERN EDGE OF P56. THERE IS NO TURN SPECIFIED IN THE MT VERNON VISUAL APCH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.