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Attributes | |
ACN | 409210 |
Time | |
Date | 199807 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : iad |
State Reference | DC |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : iad |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Challenger CL604 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff climbout : intermediate altitude ground other : taxi |
Route In Use | departure other enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 4500 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 409210 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Air carrier flight starts out at XX00 on jul/thu/98. I (the first officer) came off of a stand-up trip, which means you come in late and start early. The trip does not meet rest requirement, and you get your rest when the trip is finished. This is all legal. The problem is, scheduling calls you ZZ00 to give you a morning show. Now I have to sleep at night again. The captain has a similar scenario and is on reduced rest. Captain's show time is 15 mins prior to departure. So, as the first officer, I have most of my work done and some of his work. He shows and I'm sure he feels rushed. Additionally, we now find that the MEL has been cleared by maintenance, but not on the release so we have to clear it. Somewhere in the middle when we run the checklist, we both miss the seat belt sign and no smoking sign on the way out, when we normally get a chance to double check a few things. We discovered a fault in the hydraulics, delaying us further. We finally cleared up the fault with maintenance. We ran the rest of the checklist and took off. After flap and gear retraction, and contacting departure, I saw the seat belt sign and no smoking sign and turned them on. The only reason I'm submitting this is, we had an FAA inspector jump seating in the back.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CL65 CREW FORGOT TO TURN ON THE SEAT BELT SIGN AND NO SMOKING SIGN.
Narrative: ACR FLT STARTS OUT AT XX00 ON JUL/THU/98. I (THE FO) CAME OFF OF A STAND-UP TRIP, WHICH MEANS YOU COME IN LATE AND START EARLY. THE TRIP DOES NOT MEET REST REQUIREMENT, AND YOU GET YOUR REST WHEN THE TRIP IS FINISHED. THIS IS ALL LEGAL. THE PROB IS, SCHEDULING CALLS YOU ZZ00 TO GIVE YOU A MORNING SHOW. NOW I HAVE TO SLEEP AT NIGHT AGAIN. THE CAPT HAS A SIMILAR SCENARIO AND IS ON REDUCED REST. CAPT'S SHOW TIME IS 15 MINS PRIOR TO DEP. SO, AS THE FO, I HAVE MOST OF MY WORK DONE AND SOME OF HIS WORK. HE SHOWS AND I'M SURE HE FEELS RUSHED. ADDITIONALLY, WE NOW FIND THAT THE MEL HAS BEEN CLRED BY MAINT, BUT NOT ON THE RELEASE SO WE HAVE TO CLR IT. SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE WHEN WE RUN THE CHKLIST, WE BOTH MISS THE SEAT BELT SIGN AND NO SMOKING SIGN ON THE WAY OUT, WHEN WE NORMALLY GET A CHANCE TO DOUBLE CHK A FEW THINGS. WE DISCOVERED A FAULT IN THE HYDS, DELAYING US FURTHER. WE FINALLY CLRED UP THE FAULT WITH MAINT. WE RAN THE REST OF THE CHKLIST AND TOOK OFF. AFTER FLAP AND GEAR RETRACTION, AND CONTACTING DEP, I SAW THE SEAT BELT SIGN AND NO SMOKING SIGN AND TURNED THEM ON. THE ONLY REASON I'M SUBMITTING THIS IS, WE HAD AN FAA INSPECTOR JUMP SEATING IN THE BACK.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.