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A B757 was given a landing clearance by the tower and asked to hold short of taxiway ej. The pilot acknowledged the landing clearance, but not the hold short instructions. The controller stated again to hold short of the taxiway and the pilot responded with a 'roger.'
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 414679 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199809 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dfw |
| State Reference | TX |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : dfw |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : local |
| Qualification | controller : non radar |
| Experience | controller non radar : 18 |
| ASRS Report | 414679 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Air carrier X, a B757, checked in. The tower cleared him to land runway 35C with restr to hold short of taxiway ej. Air carrier X acknowledged with 'cleared to land' (no hold short readback). The tower then said 'and hold short of taxiway ej for crossing traffic.' air carrier X responded with 'roger' -- again with no readback. Pilots have made it known that they don't like lahso, so they're playing games on frequency (not all pilots). There are going to be safety problems if this continues. If they don't want to accept the hold short instructions, they need to advise.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B757 WAS GIVEN A LNDG CLRNC BY THE TWR AND ASKED TO HOLD SHORT OF TXWY EJ. THE PLT ACKNOWLEDGED THE LNDG CLRNC, BUT NOT THE HOLD SHORT INSTRUCTIONS. THE CTLR STATED AGAIN TO HOLD SHORT OF THE TXWY AND THE PLT RESPONDED WITH A 'ROGER.'
Narrative: ACR X, A B757, CHKED IN. THE TWR CLRED HIM TO LAND RWY 35C WITH RESTR TO HOLD SHORT OF TXWY EJ. ACR X ACKNOWLEDGED WITH 'CLRED TO LAND' (NO HOLD SHORT READBACK). THE TWR THEN SAID 'AND HOLD SHORT OF TXWY EJ FOR XING TFC.' ACR X RESPONDED WITH 'ROGER' -- AGAIN WITH NO READBACK. PLTS HAVE MADE IT KNOWN THAT THEY DON'T LIKE LAHSO, SO THEY'RE PLAYING GAMES ON FREQ (NOT ALL PLTS). THERE ARE GOING TO BE SAFETY PROBS IF THIS CONTINUES. IF THEY DON'T WANT TO ACCEPT THE HOLD SHORT INSTRUCTIONS, THEY NEED TO ADVISE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.