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Attributes | |
ACN | 416310 |
Time | |
Date | 199810 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : hlc |
State Reference | KS |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 36000 msl bound upper : 37000 |
Environment | |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdv |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-10 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 416310 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
ASRS Report | 416311 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude altitude deviation : overshoot conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : became reoriented |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | vertical : 1000 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Near hlc at FL390 we encountered light turbulence. I requested FL350 and was told to wait 6 mins or take a substantial turn. I said we would take the turn. ATC responded by saying stand by. We were then given a left turn 30 degrees and a descent while I was making a PA. I heard the first officer read back FL350. Descending out of approximately FL366 we got a TCASII alert reduce descent followed by monitor vertical speed. We leveled off about FL361. ATC asked 'you are descending to FL370 aren't you?' not the kind of question you would like to hear. We answered that we were responding to a TCASII alert while descending to FL350. ATC then told us to climb to FL370. Supplemental information from acn 416309: the first officer leveled off at FL360 and the traffic passed underneath us. I was unaware that when the captain went to make his PA he turned his overhead speaker off. The first officer's speaker was off because he used his ear piece. I never heard the actual clearance from center until the captain came back on frequency. Lesson: stereo means both speakers on in order to keep the flight engineer in the loop.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A DC10 REQUESTS DSCNT TO FL350. ARTCC CLRS FLC TO FL370, BUT FLC FLIES THROUGH FL370 DOWN TO FL360.
Narrative: NEAR HLC AT FL390 WE ENCOUNTERED LIGHT TURB. I REQUESTED FL350 AND WAS TOLD TO WAIT 6 MINS OR TAKE A SUBSTANTIAL TURN. I SAID WE WOULD TAKE THE TURN. ATC RESPONDED BY SAYING STAND BY. WE WERE THEN GIVEN A L TURN 30 DEGS AND A DSCNT WHILE I WAS MAKING A PA. I HEARD THE FO READ BACK FL350. DSNDING OUT OF APPROX FL366 WE GOT A TCASII ALERT REDUCE DSCNT FOLLOWED BY MONITOR VERT SPD. WE LEVELED OFF ABOUT FL361. ATC ASKED 'YOU ARE DSNDING TO FL370 AREN'T YOU?' NOT THE KIND OF QUESTION YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR. WE ANSWERED THAT WE WERE RESPONDING TO A TCASII ALERT WHILE DSNDING TO FL350. ATC THEN TOLD US TO CLB TO FL370. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 416309: THE FO LEVELED OFF AT FL360 AND THE TFC PASSED UNDERNEATH US. I WAS UNAWARE THAT WHEN THE CAPT WENT TO MAKE HIS PA HE TURNED HIS OVERHEAD SPEAKER OFF. THE FO'S SPEAKER WAS OFF BECAUSE HE USED HIS EAR PIECE. I NEVER HEARD THE ACTUAL CLRNC FROM CTR UNTIL THE CAPT CAME BACK ON FREQ. LESSON: STEREO MEANS BOTH SPEAKERS ON IN ORDER TO KEEP THE FE IN THE LOOP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.