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Attributes | |
ACN | 419401 |
Time | |
Date | 199811 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sfo |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 300 agl bound upper : 300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sfo tower : lax |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B747 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 419401 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe inflight encounter other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
XA15Z, sfo tower, 300 ft. While making parallel visual approachs to runway 28R/left at sfo, we made an FMS visual approach to runway 28L. Parallel to us and about 1/2 mi in front of us and going to runway 28L was a B747-400. We had a left quartering headwind of about 14 KTS at 1000 ft. At about 300 ft we encountered turbulence and the aircraft started to roll. The first officer had to use about 1/2 of the available aileron to counteract. At about 150 ft the roll got worse and the turbulence increased so we decided to miss the approach. This approach poses a great risk for wake turbulence encounters even if ATC uses the proper criteria for spacing. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: pilot participated in the wake turbulence structured callback study. Pilot was unsure what model of B747 was flying upwind from him. He was flying on the GS when the wake started to affect him. When the aircraft rolled into a 40 degree bank at 300 ft AGL, the flight crew righted the aircraft and performed a go around. The pilot stated that the cause of the encounter was the close proximity of the runways at sfo, and the trailing distance behind the B747 was only 1/2 - 1 mi. If we were to perform the same approach again, he would fly above the GS in order to avoid any possible wake turbulence.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WHILE FLYING A VISUAL APCH INTO SFO, A B757 ENCOUNTERS WAKE TURB FROM A PRECEDING B747 ON THE ADJACENT RWY. THIS CAUSES THE B757 TO EXECUTE A GAR.
Narrative: XA15Z, SFO TWR, 300 FT. WHILE MAKING PARALLEL VISUAL APCHS TO RWY 28R/L AT SFO, WE MADE AN FMS VISUAL APCH TO RWY 28L. PARALLEL TO US AND ABOUT 1/2 MI IN FRONT OF US AND GOING TO RWY 28L WAS A B747-400. WE HAD A L QUARTERING HEADWIND OF ABOUT 14 KTS AT 1000 FT. AT ABOUT 300 FT WE ENCOUNTERED TURB AND THE ACFT STARTED TO ROLL. THE FO HAD TO USE ABOUT 1/2 OF THE AVAILABLE AILERON TO COUNTERACT. AT ABOUT 150 FT THE ROLL GOT WORSE AND THE TURB INCREASED SO WE DECIDED TO MISS THE APCH. THIS APCH POSES A GREAT RISK FOR WAKE TURB ENCOUNTERS EVEN IF ATC USES THE PROPER CRITERIA FOR SPACING. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: PLT PARTICIPATED IN THE WAKE TURB STRUCTURED CALLBACK STUDY. PLT WAS UNSURE WHAT MODEL OF B747 WAS FLYING UPWIND FROM HIM. HE WAS FLYING ON THE GS WHEN THE WAKE STARTED TO AFFECT HIM. WHEN THE ACFT ROLLED INTO A 40 DEG BANK AT 300 FT AGL, THE FLC RIGHTED THE ACFT AND PERFORMED A GAR. THE PLT STATED THAT THE CAUSE OF THE ENCOUNTER WAS THE CLOSE PROX OF THE RWYS AT SFO, AND THE TRAILING DISTANCE BEHIND THE B747 WAS ONLY 1/2 - 1 MI. IF WE WERE TO PERFORM THE SAME APCH AGAIN, HE WOULD FLY ABOVE THE GS IN ORDER TO AVOID ANY POSSIBLE WAKE TURB.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.